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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 11, 2014 21:43:02 GMT -5
On February 1, I started tomatoes:
Lieven's Teardrop (Hey I still have freshies of these in the barn!) This is a lovely teardrop shaped dark dark brown cherry tomato. Black Cherry Sungold Cherry Rosso Sicilian Orange Minsk Pomodoro-Roma Italian Heirloom San Marzano Green Zebra Cherry Verde Claro Cherry (One of Tater Mater's) Black Krim Cuarentena (market tomato from Ilex) Strawberry Marguerita Piennolo d'Vesuvius (storage cherry) Tappy's Heritage Druzba Daniels (One of my favorite tomatoes from Dar, perfect shape, yummy, bigger than a salad but not a silly beefsteak. Eva x Nar (Eva Purple Ball x Neves Azorean Red) an Oxbow concoction but what is it? I dunno! Early Girl (last 3 seeds) die Monsanto die Perth's Pride (Anyone?) Palmwoods (Okay Raymundo what is this?)
Does anyone know if besides the San Marzano, there's even a canning tomato in this group?
Peppers: Orange Bell Cal Wonder Golden Cal Wonder Stocky Red Rooster JoeBell (from Joseph) Gatherer's Gold, Choco Bell Silk Road "C" (Schelpped by Fredzy from Turkey?) Ancho Big Jim Friarello Aji Amarillo Joe's Hotty (from Joseph) A beautiful, just right Hungarian Pepper, a lovely golden color. Dries like a dream.
Eggplant (Many of these are from Ilex, so Paco correct my spelling. My eyes are old, and the writing is so very very tiny!) Rosa Bianca Grex (mine) (If it was pink, it went into this grex). Asian Grex (mine) Thanks to everyone who contributed to this. They were fantastic last year! At least nine types of Asian shaped eggplant went into this. Monda San Fortuny Rayoda Bianca Eche de la Sierra #3 - 2011 (Paco? really? Give me a hint? Black, purple pink white?
So, I know in the heat of packaging seeds I often don't write near enough on the package. Oops, Sorry about that, but hey, e-mail me. So now that these are up, if you'd like to say anything about your work, please do so.
What do you want to bet that San Fortuny is pleated? Oh I hope there's a lovely big fat black in here.
Also, if I have promised you seed and you haven't gotten them, now's the time to email me!
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Post by steev on Mar 12, 2014 22:30:38 GMT -5
We will discuss seeds for next year; I can't deal with what I have now, but there are some things of interest there. One hopes for next Fall having an early, copious rainy season.
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Post by raymondo on Mar 16, 2014 3:25:13 GMT -5
On February 1, I started tomatoes:... Perth's Pride (Anyone?) Palmwoods (Okay Raymundo what is this?) Perth Pride is a dwarf developed by growers in the dwarf project run by Craig LeHoullier (USA) and Patrina Nuske-Small (Australia). The original selection was made by a grower from Perth, the capital of Western Australia, our largest state, hence the name. It's a dark tomato, brownish red I believe. Palmwoods is a paste type, supposedly of Australian origin. I sent you three paste types I think, the main one being Cornue des Andes, which was quite productive for me. I think the other might have been Ropreco which is a smallish Roma type, early and productive in my garden.
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Post by gray on Mar 16, 2014 15:53:25 GMT -5
Hey Holly, Here is my tomato list. I started mine Jan.1 they are in the greenhouse just waiting for April 15. I continually up pot so as not to stress the roots.
Kumato- brown grocery store tomato I saved seeds from. Super productive and everyone loves the sweet taste.
Premio-productive golfball size hybrid
Livingston colossal- I am trying several of the Livingstons this year from Victory seeds. All the livingston line have germinated well and are vigorous.
Livingston favorite
Livingston oxheart
Livingston perfection
Brown cherry- very productive late brown cherry
Tommy Toe- very productive tasty cherry hybrid
Sweet 100
Sungold
Delicious
Several unknown heirlooms mostly blacks
Big Beef hybrid
Indigo Rose
Gourmet Heirloom from totally tomatoes I really liked this one last year
Mountain Magic Hybrid
Vernissage Pink
Vernissage Black Like both of these very productive and tasty from Double Helix Farm
Better Boy hybrids
Wins All- I like this one it is a big potato leaf with nice fruits
I usually put out about 50-100 depending on how busy I am and space. This and potatoes are one of our favorites. We put out 400 hills of various potatoes most all from Tom Wagner. I have been planting and maintaining several for a few years now. They went in the ground March 15.
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Post by flowerweaver on Mar 16, 2014 17:01:44 GMT -5
Here's what I've started for Spring 2014, a mixture of seeds I've saved, traded, purchased. I will be saving seed off of everything that makes it through the drought.
Tomatoes: AAA Sweet Solano Alley Cats Ananas Noire Berkeley Tie Dye Heart Berkely Tie Dye Pink Bing Cherry Black and Brown Boar Black Cherry Black Krim Black Plum Paste Black Sea Man Bola Macizo Captain Lucky Chinese Velvet Clackamas Blueberry Coyote (Yellow) Dancing With Smurfs Depp's Pink Firefly Doochova Early Susbakus Aliana Egyptian Paste Flamenco Frenki Garden Peach Geranium Kiss Bush Hillbilly Isis Brandy Isis Candy Italian Ice Kaleidoscopic Jewel Lange Aermer Michael Pollan Mary Robinson's German Bicolor Marzipan Gold Muddy Waters Mule Team Northern Lights Old Ivory Egg Orange Icicle Oaxacan Jewel Peach Blow Sutton Pink Furry Boar Pink Sunshine Primary Colors Rosso Bruno San Francisco Fog Siberian Skorospelka Solar Flare Vernissage Green Wapsipinicon Peach Yellow Plum
Sweet Peppers: Big Bertha (hybrid) Donkey Ears Doorknob Sweet Sunset Italian Mix Sweet White Stuffing Hungarian
Chilis: Navajo My own crosses of many New Mexican chilis (including Velarde, Jemez, Nambe) Tabasco Cayenne Chilipequin (native to my property)
Eggplants: Black Stem (Ornamental) India Paint Italian Pink Bicolor Long Purple Noong Ta Klong Pea Ping Tung Prosperosa Rotonda Bianca Sfumata di Rosa Round Mauve Udumalpet
Other: Pineapple Tomatillo Purple Keepers Modern Landrace
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Post by raymondo on Mar 16, 2014 18:11:25 GMT -5
Hey Holly, Here is my tomato list. I started mine Jan.1 they are in the greenhouse just waiting for April 15. I continually up pot so as not to stress the roots. ... Tommy Toe- very productive tasty cherry hybrid There is an open-pollinated Tommy Toe too. In fact, there are two - a red and a yellow.
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Post by jondear on Mar 16, 2014 21:03:52 GMT -5
My list of tomatoes is being shortened to 2 or three red and pinks.
My better half has a thing for cherry tomatoes so there will be a few of those as well.
Seems I've grown tired of growing pretty maters that just don't get eaten as fast as red slicers.
As far as peppers go, less heat is more for us. I make hot pepper sauce, but if I can't eat it because it takes the top of my head off, I'm wasting my time.
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Post by steev on Mar 17, 2014 0:07:29 GMT -5
I agree that pain is not as enticing as flavor; I don't mind breaking a sweat while I eat, but I like to concentrate on taste, not discomfort.
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Post by gray on Mar 17, 2014 5:28:27 GMT -5
Hey Raymondo, come to think of it my Tommy Toe is open pollinated. I checked. I always assumed it was a hybrid because of its vigor. But I have saved the seeds for three years now and they seem to be growing out true. Thanks for the observation. Gray
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Post by templeton on Mar 17, 2014 6:23:35 GMT -5
[quote author=" 12540dumont" source="/post/96964/thread" timestamp="1394592182Palmwoods (Okay Raymundo what is this?) Does anyone know if besides the San Marzano, there's even a canning tomato in this group? [/quote] Holly, I was given a Palmwood (s?) by a market gardener friend last week. I offered him some of Raymondo's Scatalone, but he wasn't interested, said too many growers grew romas for it to be worth his while to grow them. Only one he grew was Palmwood, and that mostly for his own use. Complained about the cracking shoulders, and the BER, but said it was worth it for the flavour. It was big, long roma style green shoulders (taste genes?) I cut it open, it was tasty, but a seemed a fair bit wetter than the Scatalone which is the driest tom I've seen. Didn't really have enough to do a cook test so it went in with everything else - after seed saving. A couple of others he gave me to try - Pineapple, a big beefsteak bicolour, and Hillbilly. And a yellow globe tom which just turned up in his field a few years ago and is now stable. T
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 17, 2014 12:08:01 GMT -5
Okay you guys, end of the year, please rate your tomatoes. Templeton, thanks for the heads up. Tomatoes rarely crack here. For that you'd have to have water! I did an experiment a few years ago, I watered every week until I had green tomatoes sizing up, Then I cut the water Neves Azorean Red did great as did a few others. The Roma type also did okay with this. I heavily mulched while the soil was still moist.
My soil is almost dry already. It'll be a race to get everything planted while I still have any moisture at all.
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Post by jondear on Mar 18, 2014 18:18:33 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of talk about NAR and wonder where you guys rate it on the flavor scale. I agree that pain is not as enticing as flavor; I don't mind breaking a sweat while I eat, but I like to concentrate on taste, not discomfort. Sweaty forehead is just fine by me.
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Post by steev on Mar 18, 2014 20:44:10 GMT -5
Seeded tomatoes for transplants today, all indeterminants:
Black Tula Black Black Krim Black Plum Black Mauri Cherokee Purple Arumugam's Black Cherry Gregori's Altai Ananas Noire
I'll plant half out late April/early May; if they get frost-killed, the rest go out early June.
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Post by raymondo on Mar 19, 2014 5:20:36 GMT -5
Okay you guys, end of the year, please rate your tomatoes... Okay, I had a lousy season due to a protracted dry spell (over 8 months where evaporation exceeded precipitation, in other words drought). Most plants died. The best of what was left were: Piennolo del Vesuvio - good flavour; can't comment on production really but it was okay considering the drought; best of all the Queensland Fruit Fly (QFF) left it alone, I think because it has pretty firm skin. Barossa Moon x Sungold F2 - great flavour in a golden yellow cherry, citrus with a sweet finish. Of course, being F2 this may not be repeated next year. Sweet Cherry Gold F1 - a relatively new (to me) hybrid, very productive and excellent flavour, unfortunately very attractive to the damn QFF so I had to bag the entire plant! Worth the effort though. That's it. I had a good number of others planted which produced just enough fruit to get fresh seeds before dying. Hopeless!
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Post by steev on Mar 19, 2014 20:15:29 GMT -5
Seeded for transplants, today, all indeterminants:
Piennolo del Vesuvio Santorini Grappiolo d'Invierno Mortgage Lifter Limmony Red Brandywine Lemon Boy Beefsteak Kumato Caspian Pink Aunt Ruby's German Green Amana Orange Red Siberian Green Zebra Principe Borghese Pruden's Purple Ukrainian Purple Tasty Evergreen Henderson's Pink Ponderosa Adelia
I may get to the determinants and whatnot tomorrow.
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