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Post by steev on Aug 9, 2015 20:39:09 GMT -5
The males are the ones that grow balls; no, wait, that's the females... never mind.
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Post by mayz on Aug 12, 2015 3:41:55 GMT -5
Hello guys
actually I haven't a lot of time for gardening.
Just to say that here, the crops are or will be bumper for every fruits.
First fruit setting for my paw-paw and persimmon.
Have a nice day
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Post by khoomeizhi on Aug 12, 2015 15:15:53 GMT -5
turns out the new place has a few wild persimmon trees, too, with a decent amount of fruit on. so we'll see how they are, and either work them into the design as they are or topwork them to good varieties. i doubt that any of the asian varieties could survive our coldest winters, so i may stay with just the americans and the crosses, like 'nikita's gift' and that other one i can't remember the name of right now...
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Aug 12, 2015 23:26:18 GMT -5
I love persimmons after first trying only two years ago. I tried looking for seeds but the clear things i saved i really didnt think were seeds. Where can you buy persimmon seeds online?!
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Post by khoomeizhi on Aug 13, 2015 4:00:01 GMT -5
i don't know, but i collect a fair amount of good american persimmon every year. remind me in october and i can send you some.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Aug 13, 2015 12:13:19 GMT -5
i don't know, but i collect a fair amount of good american persimmon every year. remind me in october and i can send you some. Thanks. I just might, |
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Post by mskrieger on Aug 13, 2015 13:50:44 GMT -5
I tasted my first-ever ripe off the tree persimmon last fall. It had fallen off a young tree on the UConn campus. It was FANTASTIC, nothing like the store bought kind. I saved the seeds but forgot to cold-stratify them. I may just plant them at the edge of the compost pile this autumn and see if any sprout next spring, then transplant. The persimmon is such a great fruit, and so unobtainable in the grocery store. I want my own.
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Post by reed on Aug 13, 2015 14:22:42 GMT -5
We have a good amount of wild persimmons here in southern Indiana. I have never planted them as there are plenty along the roads and edges of pastures. They don't seem to grow much in denser woods. The ones that hang on the trees and turn into kind of persimmon raisin type things are the best and not good till after a few heavy frosts. I don't like the fresh juicy ones at all even if they are ripe enough to fall. Some trees hold them into fall and winter and some don't so I wonder if it might be genetic.
We had a big tree in the yard when I was a kid and we would climb to get them, now I throw things to knock them down. I'll try to remember to collect up seeds this year. I think the are a rather slow growing tree, might speed them up with cultivation.
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Post by khoomeizhi on Aug 13, 2015 15:06:35 GMT -5
there's a place we go every year that has the highest density of wild persimmon i've seen, and i always marvel at the variation in size, shape, flavor, texture, and ripening time.
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Post by steev on Aug 13, 2015 19:28:26 GMT -5
I've never eaten an American persimmon, the tree being very rare in Cali. My love of dried D. kaki and fresh D. fuyu has led me to sacrifice ~6 trees on the farm, where the climate is just too rigorous for them to survive without more TLC than I've been able to provide; same problem with Carpathian walnuts; when I can be there more, I'll certainly try them again; I also want to give paw-paws a shot.
Actually, the only American persimmon tree I've seen was on the grounds of an up-scale private grammar-school; it was sparsely productive and very large; before I got any fruit, they ripped it out, replacing it with plastic-sheathed play structures.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Aug 13, 2015 19:52:13 GMT -5
They have them occasionally in southern california. I wouldnt say they are rare there, but certainly somewhat uncommon. But those who have them protect them fiercly.
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Post by castanea on Aug 13, 2015 20:16:31 GMT -5
American persimmons are very tough trees, tougher than Asian persimmons. There are some naturalized American persimmon trees growing near Auburn California off I-80. They get no water except rain and seem to be doing fine. My American persimmon got almost no water last year after irrigation tubing got blocked and I didn't know it. The tree didn't look any different and still set lots of little fruit. This is a seedling tree and the fruit is forgettable though.
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Post by steev on Aug 14, 2015 0:22:43 GMT -5
Yes, well, I'm not surprised that the "locals" are tough.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 14, 2015 0:32:02 GMT -5
The only fruit that looks good at the farm this year is my Asian Per. The grapes have half the fruit 1/4 ripe, 1/4 over ripe and half not ripe yet. It's not pretty. Tomatoes have been less than spectacular. Years of having 10 flats at a time to can, this year, I'm lucky if I have 2 at a time ripe. My Asian persimmon has lots of green fruit...maybe? We haven't had rain in 11 months, and a week ago we had a sprinkle. Like a passing fancy to go with the dry thunder showers....fire! Well that was enough for the pomegranites to burst. It's been another tough year. Have I said I HATE drought? Yeah, well I do.
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Post by steev on Aug 14, 2015 1:12:45 GMT -5
Yesss... well, drought sucks (blows?). I've no doubt that the current predictions of El Nino deluge will pan out, despite their being months in the future; do I?
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