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Post by Marches on May 25, 2016 11:04:58 GMT -5
Yet again I planted a bare root peach tree last year and it isn't doing anything, no leaves, no swelling buds, nothing. Second time this has happened with the same variety (Red Haven) which grew last year and got some peach leaf curl but wasn't overwhelmed. I didn't cover it over winter because I believe in Darwinism.
Not sure if peach leaf curl has got it good or if the mild winter wasn't enough to fulfill its dormancy.
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Post by mskrieger on May 25, 2016 12:43:21 GMT -5
Marches if there wasn't enough chilling, you must be in the (seriously) Deep South? Does anyone grow peaches commercially where you are? Might your extension office have a clue? Are you planting in clay soil? Or maybe purchasing bad stock? Or do you have a serious borer problem? Or are the trees not getting enough water, possibly? steev I repented my sins and sure enough, there are a few baby peaches on my trees! Wow. Good advice.
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Post by mskrieger on May 25, 2016 12:44:02 GMT -5
(or maybe, Marches, you aren't worthy enough. Try wearing sackcloth and ashes and fasting for a few days before you replant.) |
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Post by blueadzuki on May 25, 2016 16:20:36 GMT -5
A few good hard sessions of self flagellation wouldn't hurt either (actually, they'll hurt a lot, that's the point) followed by a nice long immersion in boiling brine and a few hours of being beaten with red hot pokers.
Alternatively, you can do like some people do for olives and beat the TREE while threatening it you will set it ablaze if it does not come through.
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Post by steev on May 25, 2016 18:47:11 GMT -5
All those demons look much the same to me; Lucifer, Beelzebub, Pazuzu, whatever. There's never a shortage - new kid on the block. That's no demon, just a young Bernie Sanders. |
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Post by steev on May 25, 2016 18:53:43 GMT -5
steev I repented my sins and sure enough, there are a few baby peaches on my trees! Wow. Good advice.[/quote] If you got only a few peachettes, I must assume you were relatively deficient, sin-wise. That approach always gives me prodigious returns. The Deity knows when you're inflating your resume.
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Post by Marches on May 26, 2016 11:33:44 GMT -5
Marches if there wasn't enough chilling, you must be in the (seriously) Deep South? Does anyone grow peaches commercially where you are? Might your extension office have a clue? Are you planting in clay soil? Or maybe purchasing bad stock? Or do you have a serious borer problem? Or are the trees not getting enough water, possibly? steev I repented my sins and sure enough, there are a few baby peaches on my trees! Wow. Good advice. I'm in England. We got snow and frost but I wouldn't say it was a cold winter. We have no commercial peach growers but we have a few peach varieties, Red Haven has an old English variety in its ancestry and we have commercial apricot growers. Maybe leaf curl got it, maybe I should have protected it for a few years until it was stronger. |
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Post by mskrieger on May 26, 2016 13:58:34 GMT -5
Marches if there wasn't enough chilling, you must be in the (seriously) Deep South? Does anyone grow peaches commercially where you are? Might your extension office have a clue? Are you planting in clay soil? Or maybe purchasing bad stock? Or do you have a serious borer problem? Or are the trees not getting enough water, possibly? steev I repented my sins and sure enough, there are a few baby peaches on my trees! Wow. Good advice. I'm in England. We got snow and frost but I wouldn't say it was a cold winter. We have no commercial peach growers but we have a few peach varieties, Red Haven has an old English variety in its ancestry and we have commercial apricot growers. Maybe leaf curl got it, maybe I should have protected it for a few years until it was stronger. Peach leaf curl is usually not fatal, just weakening and detrimental to this year's growth (and therefore next year's fruit set.) If you had ice and snow in England, you had plenty of chilling hours--those are generally defined as between 0-10 degrees Celsius (32-50 degrees Fahrenheit). If you have commercial apricot growers you can definitely grow peaches, apricots are similar but more finicky (mostly because they break dormancy even faster than peaches and so are at even greater risk of losing their buds/blossoms in a frost.) And therein lies a clue, perhaps--if you planted it in a fairly protected place that gets warm winter sunlight, the tree may have broken dormancy midwinter then been killed by a hard frost. You may need to shade your tree in the winter, or plant it where a building or evergreen will shade it in the long midwinter shadow but not in the high sun of summer. There is also a disease called sudden peach death that might be a culprit, although if you've never planted peaches in that spot before, it'd be odd to have it. Not knowing what part of England you're in, I can't make an exact US-equivalent climate comparison (maybe the coastal Pacific NW or British Columbia's Victoria Island or somewhere like that?), but southern Appalachia could be similar. So here's the North Carolina Extension's list of varieties and required chill hours. Perhaps it will prove useful: content.ces.ncsu.edu/chilling-requirements-of-selected-peach-varietiesblueadzuki peaches are tenderer than olives, and don't burn nearly so brightly. |
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Post by MikeH on Jun 5, 2016 7:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by steev on Jun 5, 2016 21:14:52 GMT -5
Ah, those low-info propagandists, confusing Democratic Socialism with Soviet Communism. So lame.
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Post by Gianna on Nov 6, 2017 16:36:40 GMT -5
This year there are some fruits forming on the Babcock peach, but not many. The two previous years virtually nothing. Not only no fruits those two years, but very poor leafing out. I feared the tree might die. But fortunately this year it is looking quite good. For a Babcock to not fruit here, very low chill, is very unusual. So in 2016, I got a handful, but not many. That made 3 years of scant fruiting.
Then, in 2017, after a winter with really nice rains, we had lovely blooming coupled with very good set. I thinned at least half the developing fruits.
I initially thought the poor fruiting in prior years was because of the warmer winters, but perhaps it was also associated with our prolonged drought those years too. I had watered the peach tree, but our tap water is horrible (stale reservoir water and very mineralized well water topped off with chlorine) Irrigating is never as good as natural rains.
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