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Post by steev on Nov 7, 2016 20:52:04 GMT -5
While I'm very impressed by the number of varieties you've planted, I'm blown away by all the counting.
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Post by paquebot on Nov 12, 2016 23:34:04 GMT -5
Counting. Steev? I think that the most we planted at WeGrowGarlic was around 30,000. Whoever was planting the cloves had to count and record each variety and there must have been 150 varieties at their peak.
On the OP's list, one jumps out at me, Russian Red. That was one of 27 that I turned over to WeGrowGarlic to get them going. Bulbils were used for increasing growing stock in a hurry. Never saw a round because what I had was a rocambole rather than a purple stripe by the same name. Garlic can really be a fun pain, eh?
Martin
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Post by paquebot on Nov 13, 2016 23:15:51 GMT -5
Had to check which Russian Red was at WeGrowGarlic and it was indeed the Rocambole. For some years, Jung's offered garlic for spring planting. They ended that at least 10 years ago. Russian Red was one that they last offered and it was a purple stripe. Somehow I never grew either one in my home gardens.
Martin
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 14, 2016 0:03:24 GMT -5
I urge other HG garlic growers to post their 2017 garlic lists in this thread, I tilled under my garlic patch this fall, and abandoned most of the varieties that I have been growing, including 5 of the 6 GRIN varieties that haven't produced seeds for me. They'll re-sprout like crazy, but I'm intending to pull them as scallions in the spring. I kept a few random unnamed varieties that were able to compete with the weeds this year, and also 3-4 varieties that are known to make seeds in my garden: PI540319 Chesnok Red Seediest (might actually be two varieties) A single one year old round grown from seed Hundreds of seeds. Also growing Music as a market crop. |
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Post by steev on Nov 14, 2016 0:26:34 GMT -5
"Green" garlic is truly seductive chopped on garlic bread.
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Post by philagardener on Nov 14, 2016 6:49:26 GMT -5
"Green" garlic is truly seductive chopped on garlic bread. Particularly if you use plenty of garlic butter to anchor them there!  |
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Post by reed on Nov 14, 2016 7:10:52 GMT -5
I like to soften the butter and just stir in the finely chopped leaves. Green leaves also good to top soups or baked potatoes, stirred in mac and cheese or mashed potatoes, on and on. That is how I have always mostly used garlic.
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Post by reed on Nov 15, 2016 9:29:04 GMT -5
I urge other HG garlic growers to post their 2017 garlic lists in this thread, no matter how large or small. Would be fun to see what varieties and types other folks here are growing.  I have four side by side patches, each 3' x 5' of Russian Red, Spanish Roja, German Brown and my Reed's Hoosier Homestead. RHH is all up and strong, German Brown isn't far behind, Spanish Rojo is mostly up and looks fine just not as big yet. Just a few Russian Red are peaking through. Another similar size patch in a different spot of Chesnok Red from plants just left in the ground and some new from bulbils. Three Chesnok Red plants from TGS planted this spring and just left where they were. One is pretty good sized the others just came back to life A big pot with all of the above crowded together from bulbils, to see if they might cross and make seeds. Last but not least about a 2' x 40' patch of RHH broadcast from bulbils and some other RHH just left in the ground and some self scattered bulbils . This is my insurance in case RHH doesn't take kindly to actual cultivation. |
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Post by zeedman on Nov 15, 2016 21:04:30 GMT -5
Bogatyr (mps)
Broadleaf Czech (artichoke)
Bulgarian Hanuan (artichoke)
Chinese rocambole (rocambole)
Choparsky (mps)
Chrysalis Purple (rocambole)
Estonian Red (mps)
Georgian Fire (porcelain)
German Extra Hardy (porcelain?)(appears to be rocambole)
German Red (rocambole)
German White (porcelain)
Jurjevich (rocambole)
Kettle River Giant (artichoke)
Korean Mad Dog (artichoke)
Krasnodar Red (mps)
L.K. Mann's C751 (rocambole)
Martin's Heirloom (rocambole?)(this may be something else mislabeled)
Mchadidzhvari (artichoke)
Old Homestead (rocambole)
Pearly Red (rocambole)
Persian Star (ps)
Polish Jenn (porcelain)
Pskem (mps)
Purple Cauldron (artichoke)
Ron's Single Center (artichoke)
Russian Red (rocambole)
Sicilian Gold (artichoke)
Special Idaho (rocambole)
Transylvanian (artichoke)
Uzbek Turban (turban)
Vic's (rocambole)
White Seedless (artichoke)
Xi'an (turban)
+ 5 perennial onions
Two wide rows, 100' X 2'. I planted by row foot rather than count, so don't know the exact total... but the baseline is 30 plants per variety more or less, so about 900 garlic plants total, and about 100 multiplier onions. Planting was delayed due to wet weather & lack of time, but thanks to the extended warm spell, everything was planted at the end of October.
The garlic bed had been located in my rural garden plot... but that site is poorly drained, and because of the heavy Spring rains in recent years, the garlic languished. Moved the garlic bed last year (to better drained ground on a friend's property) and the garlic did much better. The bulbs were still under-sized, but the cloves were nearly normal... so I am hopeful that the bulbs next year should be close to full size. Those that don't size up next year will probably be dropped.
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Post by paquebot on Nov 16, 2016 0:30:22 GMT -5
Martin's Heirloom (rocambole?)(this may be something else mislabeled) Why do you say that? What was your source? The trails of all commercial offerings lead right back to me via WeGrowGarlic and Filaree. Martin |
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Post by zeedman on Nov 16, 2016 14:06:00 GMT -5
Martin's Heirloom (rocambole?)(this may be something else mislabeled) Why do you say that? What was your source? The trails of all commercial offerings lead right back to me via WeGrowGarlic and Filaree. Martin Martin, my source was an SSE member in 2013 which dropped out the following year, and did not reply to my email requesting more info. He listed it as a rocambole, and did not name his source. The garlic I grew from that stock has been very slow to size up, has very small cloves, and appears to be a porcelain, not rocambole. It bears no resemblance to photos I have seen of your garlic elsewhere, and it appears likely that I was sent something else by mistake. Coincidentally, I was sent something nearly identical the same year (from a different trade) that was supposed to be Bogatyr; and it too appeared to be a porcelain, of very poor quality (I had good stock for comparison from another source). I disposed of the ersatz "Bogatyr", and will probably dispose of this stock of Martin's next year, since it has performed so poorly... I would do so in a heartbeat if I could arrange to get known good stock from the original source. |
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Post by paquebot on Nov 16, 2016 19:14:50 GMT -5
I know of NY SZ T but he did not get Martin's from me. Nobody has ever had it slow to size up and definitely would behave elsewhere in this state. I note that that grower listed 55 varieties in 2013. Too easy to mess up when growing that many. I saw it happen! Whatever you have you may call whatever you please except Martin's.
I note that Marie's was listed right above it. That was a variety that Sand Hill began selling as bulbils which would produce divided bulbs in one season. It didn't since it was a purple stripe rather than a rocambole.
Martin
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Post by kazedwards on Nov 21, 2016 18:42:16 GMT -5
Today I planted Chesnok Red at the new property. I double dug the new bed and added compost/soil from the best spot in the old garden. I only planted 36 cloves due to also starting a new bed. I still hope to plant the following Spanish Roja bulbils German Brown bulbils Reed's Indiana Homestead rounds/small bulbs TGS bulb 1 TGS bulb 2 TGS bulbils Also would like to plant more Chesnok Red and some Chesnok Red Bulbils reed does your Indiana Homestead garlic have purple striping? I just noticed that some of the bulbs I was hoping to plant did. I hoping it does otherwise I may have somehow had a mix up. Here's a pic  Here is a picture of the new bed. The polls I'm using as row markers.  |
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Post by reed on Nov 21, 2016 18:57:53 GMT -5
I have seen a little bit of purple but not that much, just a little streak now and then. Mostly it is just white.
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Post by kazedwards on Nov 21, 2016 19:00:54 GMT -5
I won't plant that one then. I have some rounds that I know are yours.
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