You don't buy GMO seeds, you buy a limited license to use them. That means paperwork. They come with a agreement that you must sign that covers things like only growing one crop and not saving the seed, not using them for research, limitations on pesticide use, etc. People are often afraid that somebody is going to secretly sell them GMO seeds like some kind of drug pusher, but that will never happen because the patent holders have a huge investment in maintaining control of the seed supply. Some seed companies engage in a lot of scaremongering as a marketing technique but, as far as I know, there is not a single company anywhere who will sell packet quantities of GMO seed at all, much less without making you sign a contract.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 14, 2016 21:33:43 GMT -5
A common way that GMO seeds get released into the wild is through theft... Someone steals a bag of GMO sugar-beet seed, subdivides it into small packets, and sells it on eBay.
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Post by prairiegardens on Dec 14, 2016 23:40:21 GMT -5
Ok I am confused. At a quick glance Stokes seed is selling a bunch of patented varieties of different things, and one melon which requires a contract for anyone buying a thousand seeds or more. That seed is available without a contract to anyone who wants to buy any lesser amount including a packet of I think 10 seeds.
How do breeders get to patent plant material? (Something that the EU has just this month decided is not to be allowed.. a bit late maybe, but an interesting development). Anyway, since it is illegal to propagate patented seed either without permission, how is it possible to know the difference and indeed that none of the patented seed is GMO?
Trust is not an option anymore for a company tightly intertwined with Syngenta, none of the Monsanto cluster of companies are known for being upfront about what they are doing, and iirc Syngenta's specialty is genetics. Paranoid, possibly. Quite willing to listen, though.
Post by prairiegardens on Dec 14, 2016 23:49:35 GMT -5
The listing in the catalog says they are patented.if you look on page 6 of the catalog there are 7 different listings for beans included which are each defined as patented seed. Looking again now, there are not as many of these as I expected, several for broccoli as well, but none that I saw for cabbage or corn, which was a surprise. They used to have a bunch of listings for PVP in both categories, scanning quickly have seen none with that designation at all so far, only got as far as cucumbers tho.
add: later PVP plant designation shows up a few times, along with a few more patented varieties. Not nearly as many as expected, given the green beans page. Dont know the difference between PVP and patented and although I understand that patented doesn't necessarily mean GMO, it seems as though it equally doesn't necessarily mean not GMO either.Mystery seed.
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wilscase: I'm a graduate student at Oregon State and have been working with populations segrgating for different color genes such as the B gene in Cucurbita. I'm curious if anyone has experience with crosses in Cucurbita maxima between grey blue types and orange?
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wilscase: I have been backcrossing to the grey parent for 4 generations and have finally selfed the heterozygotes (for the Bmax gene) the populations have segregated for diffuse bicolor (pink/blue, orange green), blue green, blue, green, pink (salmon) and orange
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wilscase: The genes involved are Bmax and bl. I have observed that Bmax is incompletely dominant to wild type (green). I have read that bl is incompletely recessive to Bl(wild type). I'm curious if anyone else has observed the behavior of Bmax in a grey/blue type
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wilscase: It appears that bl and Bmax are interacting to produce different shades of salmon and pink.
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wilscase: I'm also interested in any other color genetics, especially the relationships between B and L genes. In the right background these genes can dramatically increase Carotenoids (vitamin A)
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