Pepper Grow Lists 2017

[farmermike]

Nice peppers, toomanyirons!

Those Hungarian Black look like they have some crosses in them. The smaller, darker ones look like what I usually get. (I posted a photo earlier in this thread that shows my HB from 2016.) I got the original seeds from Baker Creek. The larger ones seem to have some yellowish-green showing. They may have crossed with Hungarian Yellow -- which would be pretty cool, since that is a cross I have been hoping to see. Did you get any ripe seeds from that phenotype?

That's very interesting that your Shishitos look so different from mine. Mine look much more like the shishitos I'm used to seeing at farmers markets around here. Did you get any spicy ones from my batch? My line seems to still be heat-free this year in my garden, and I'm going to try to keep it that way. At first glance, I thought yours looked more like Friggitello peppers, but a look at images online shows both varieties displaying a range of shapes and sizes.

I tried growing Padron peppers this year, hoping for a SLIGHTLY spicy shishito-type frying pepper, but they ended up being the hottest pepper in my garden (and the most productive). I made 1/2 gal of hot sauce from them.

I had run out of room in my garden by the time we traded seeds, so I'm looking forward to trying yours next year!

I had a pretty interesting pepper year, with lots of nice crosses showing up, and some segregating hybrids. I'll post photos and a grow report here when I get a chance.

[reed]

Do you just grow all your peppers in semi isolation, a sweet patch and a hot patch? If so how far apart do you keep them?

I got away from doing much with peppers cause the woman insists I grow those ghost, scorpion and reaper so she can make hot sauce to give away to goofy people who pretend to like the crap. I've come to despise those things, not that I don't like hot peppers but hot for the sake of hot and expense of everything else doesn't work for me. This was a bumper year, big trees of the nasty things are out there right now hanging full.

[farmermike]

This was a very interesting year for peppers! I had the opportunity to grow out a segregating F2 population, and found some really nice (accidental) F1s that popped up in my garden.

These are a small sample of an F2 poblano x jalapeno cross from jondear .


I loved these! I only grew 5 or 6 plants, but they were very productive and compact. I used them to flavor pots of beans all summer long -- and they’re still going. They were all moderately spicy, which is exactly what I was looking for. They definitely seemed to be segregating into jalapeno-ish and poblano-ish shapes, but more jalapeno sized (no huge poblanos). I’ll definitely grow more from my saved seeds, and more of the original seed next year. I’m tempted to continue growing these as a mix in the future and just select for diversity within a theme.

I had a couple Pasilla Bajio that looked like they crossed with Hungarian Yellow (one of my favorite peppers).

The fruits start out yellowish-green and pointing upward, then turn yellow and hang down, then ripen to red -- all just like HY. But they were long, narrow and curved like PB. I’m planning to grow lots of those F2 seeds next year. Excited to see what comes out of it.

This was supposed to be Pasilla Bajio, but also looks like it was crossed with something -- perhaps Mulato Isleno. These were delicious in both the dark green and brown/ripe stages, with a nice moderate level of heat.


I think a lot of my pepper garden space next year will be devoted to growing out these crosses. I should have some seeds to share in trades this winter, if anyone is interested.

I grew Padron peppers this year and they were way too spicy unless I caught them at the very earliest stage. Shishitos were glorious, as usual, fried in a skillet. Last year on my Mulato Isleno, I only managed to get one fruit that barely ripened before frost killed it (in December), and only got a few seeds. I planted those seeds this year and got 4 or 5 fruits to ripen -- without planting them any earlier. Maybe that is the result of selection for earlier ripening?

I had a nice patch of Chilhaucle Negro and was intending to dry them for mole, but I waited to long to pick the ripe ones and rats ate them all while I was on vacation. I didn’t think rats would eat spicy peppers, but I’m not sure what else could’ve done it.

My biggest problem with peppers is sunburn (as you can see in some of the above photos). Anthocyanin in tomato skin seems to help prevent this. I am thinking about crossing Hungarian Black with some of my other favorites to incorporate the black skin trait into some breeding lines. Anyone else have experience with this? I would love to breed a pepper that starts out with black skin and ripens to brown!

toomanyirons , I’ll definitely be interested in those crossed HB seeds, if you still have some to spare.

[jondear]

One of my favorite segregations was a jalapeno shaped one too Mike. It was very productive. I grew out a dozen or so, but plan on doubling that, at least, for next year, to try and find more variability. ... Thanks for the grow report. :-)

[oxbowfarm]

So I had the opportunity to trade with farmermike early in the year, and he gave me some very interesting peppers that sounded like they were a good match for a pepper trial I wanted to do of some Ancho/Poblano type drying peppers. I rec'd Chilhuacle Negro and some F3 Pasilla BajiaX Mulato Isleño seed. I've got about 15 Chilhuacle Negro plants going and I really like them so far. Most of them have a good number of peppers sized up and I have pretty high confidence I'm going to get a huge harvest from these. I also really like the plant architecture, they stand tall on their own, vs flopping over and dumping the peppers on the ground to rot. Just a really nice looking pepper, I can't wait to try them.


The F3 PB X MI I have way fewer plants, only three. I don't think I started as many and I believe there were some seedling mishaps, can't really remember now. All three plants are pretty clearly segregating, one doesn't have much of anything sized up yet, the other has some skinny dark chiles more along the Pasilla type, and the third has some really nice ancho style peppers that are pretty good sized. I definitely want to keep some seeds back of this one.


There is one pepper in the Chilhuacle Negro patch thats is a cross of some kind. It appears to be a bit longer in season as there are a lot of small fruit set on, but nothing like the Chilhuacle type plants. The peppers are sort of short fluted cylinders. I wonder if the male parent jumps out at you Mike?



I also trialed a few different Ancho/Poblano-type varieties as well. Two pretty generic strains, one just called "Ancho" and the other "Poblano", of which the "Poblano" is much more productive and has the rich dark green fruit. A couple commercial hybrids, Mosquetero and Tiburon. Tiburon has about 50% great looking plants with nice big dark fruits and the other half empty. The Mosqueteros are way behind and don't have any reasonable size fruit yet. Ancho Gigante is looking pretty good production-wise but the fruits are quite pale, I assume they ripen bright red. I also got a pepper called "Crimson" that was supposedly an Ancho-type but they look much more like a NuMex/Anaheim type to me.