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Post by imgrimmer on Jul 25, 2020 13:02:47 GMT -5
after some seasons in my garden Canoncito is doing pretty well. It has become more precocious in flowering and ripening than in the last years. There were already the first fruit sets 3 weeks after planting. The plants remain very small compared to other types of peppers. In my garden they didn`t become heigher than 25cm (10inch). In the background there is a local outdoor sweet pepper variety. Much stronger in leaves and stems.  |
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Post by diane on Jul 26, 2020 12:23:44 GMT -5
I'm growing about 30 kinds of C. annuum this year, including two Canoncito from my own saved seeds. These plants are quite different from all the others
- rather densely bushy, with lots of branches, smaller leaves and lots of peppers.
I don't recall ever growing a pepper like this before.
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Post by diane on Jul 26, 2020 12:25:02 GMT -5
duplicate post and I can't delete one
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Post by steev on Jul 27, 2020 20:47:50 GMT -5
Been there, done that; frustrating!
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Post by imgrimmer on Jul 28, 2020 0:32:59 GMT -5
diane Do you have a picture of your plants? Sounds like they are larger than mine.
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Post by imgrimmer on Jul 28, 2020 5:57:20 GMT -5
the same fruit some days ago  |
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Post by ericbernhard on Sept 8, 2020 5:16:18 GMT -5
As the summer here in Bonn, Germany slowly winds to an end I can also confirm the superiority of the cañoncito variety. In my biggest comparison to date I grew out 32 plants of various varieties in a matrix at 25 cm spacing. I started the seeds indoors on April 3 and planted them outdoors approximately six weeks later on May 18th. Among the varieties were cañoncito, velarde, chimayo, and el rito. In addition I grew out a number of open pollinated crosses from previous years and seeds from last year's open pollinated velarde. The Cañoncito plants exhibit the earliest blooming and the fastest ripening. In addition, they had the least incidence of cat facing of all the plants that I grew. That's for me of the greatest relevance, since our nights remain fairly cool for a good portion of the summer, and cat facing is a problem that I constantly fight with. Chimayo also grows very strong for me, but tends to set fruit rather late. This also has the desired effect of reducing cat facing. It also tends towards a simultaneous ripening. The one risk is that the peppers don't ripen before the fall rains come.
My dilemma this year is the following. One of the cañoncito plants outshined all the others: early ripening, absolutely no cat facing, high yield, good deep color, mild heat, and good drying at room temperature.
Do I save seeds only from this one plant and then next year save seeds from a larger number of individuals or do I already save seeds from multiple plants this year, even though none of the other varieties stood up to this one specimen of cañoncito?
Chimayos trait of heavy bearing with fairly simultaneous ripening wouldn't be bad to combine with the early ripening of cañoncito.
One possiblity I see would be to have the majority of plants next year be from this one plant of cañoncito, with individual plants of the other varieties scattered within the matrix. Then I would subsequently save seed only from the best cañoncito plants, thereby hopefully incorporating a bit of heterosis while still preserving the genetic base of cañoncito.
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Post by imgrimmer on Sept 8, 2020 16:23:48 GMT -5
Hallo Eric!
In such a case I collect the seeds separately and grow both types again next year with some distance to each other. Which allows a little gene flow but not too much. Often there are some good among the second choice types.
Do you have pictures? Today I collected about 10 fruits of Canoncito. They are starting to ripen now.
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Post by ericbernhard on Sept 9, 2020 1:36:50 GMT -5
That's a good tip. Thanks. I'll try to take some pictures the next time I'm in the garden this weekend.
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Post by ericbernhard on Sept 9, 2020 14:03:02 GMT -5
Here is a picture of the plant. Since there are only two peppers left on it there isn't much to see.  20200909_164937 by Eric Bernhard, on Flickr |
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Post by ericbernhard on Sept 10, 2020 4:41:21 GMT -5
And here a photo of the harvest from that plant up to now (minus one pepper which I already ate to test flavor and heat level)  20200909_185855 by Eric Bernhard, on Flickr |
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Post by ericbernhard on Sept 10, 2020 4:52:03 GMT -5
This picture shows the typical pepper deformities that I deal with. I assume it is coming from the typically cool temperatures (particularly at night) we get in the first half of summer.  20200909_170207 by Eric Bernhard, on Flickr |
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