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Post by philagardener on Nov 9, 2017 19:01:18 GMT -5
There was a problem a number of years ago with a bitter gene getting into the delicata stocks. Might be the same sort of issue. I agree, they seemed much better in the past (but so do many things  )! |
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Post by diane on Nov 9, 2017 20:40:53 GMT -5
acorn squash seem to no longer have the flavor or texture they once did. Are you growing the same variety as you used to? Did you save your own seeds? |
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Post by steev on Nov 9, 2017 21:00:04 GMT -5
Diminishing taste-sensitivity may account for some of that, as well as the nostalgia factor; some other things relate to reduced testosterone/estrogen.
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Post by RpR on Nov 9, 2017 22:20:49 GMT -5
acorn squash seem to no longer have the flavor or texture they once did. Are you growing the same variety as you used to? Did you save your own seeds? No but plants or seeds were not from odd ball places. Most were from Farmer's Nursery where I often get my vining veggies. Two of them were Acorn based but different for differences sake in appearences, some were "improved". Steve I wondered about that but the Kabocha I grew this year I find to be very tasty. |
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Post by RpR on Nov 9, 2017 22:26:07 GMT -5
Are you growing the same variety as you used to? Did you save your own seeds? No but plants or seeds were not from odd ball places. Most were from Farmer's Nursery where I often get my vining veggies. Two of them were Acorn based but different for differences sake in appearences, some were "improved". Steev I wondered about that but the Kabocha I grew this year I find to be very tasty. |
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Post by steev on Nov 10, 2017 0:38:00 GMT -5
I agree that kabochas are primo.
Kitasawa Seeds: excellent selection there.
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Post by gilbert on Nov 14, 2017 16:05:35 GMT -5
We ate our first Lofthouse Maxima today; it was superb, and had fat, robust seeds.
How did the Tetsukabuto project go? Will the Tetsukabuto descendants keep the male sterility trait?
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Post by gilbert on Nov 14, 2017 16:11:07 GMT -5
Also, how do they produce Tetsukabuto seeds? Wouldn't such a cross be too difficult to repeat every year for seed production? I see that it is used as a watermelon rootstock; that is interesting.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 14, 2017 18:53:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the culinary report gilbert. The Tetsukabuto (maxima X moschata) project went extremely well. There are about 3 dozen "F2" fruits waiting to be opened, and 3 "F1" fruits. (Most likely pollinated by acorn squash). The few "F2s" that I have opened have plenty of viable looking seeds. Germination of last year's seeds was much higher than I expected. The male flowers on the F1 plants shriveled up before producing pollen. Some of the F2 plants had normal looking male flowers, so I suspect that fertility was restored. If I would have noticed earlier in the season, I might have saved seeds only from the fully-fertile plants. Oh well. A nuclear gene is know in squash, which causes male-sterility, so I suspect that they are making use of that gene to make the cross. |
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Post by reed on Nov 15, 2017 8:44:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the culinary report gilbert . The Tetsukabuto (maxima X moschata) project went extremely well. There are about 3 dozen "F2" fruits waiting to be opened, and 3 "F1" fruits. (Most likely pollinated by acorn squash). The few "F2s" that I have opened have plenty of viable looking seeds. Germination of last year's seeds was much higher than I expected. Isn't acorn a pepo? A three species mix up? |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 15, 2017 11:03:38 GMT -5
]Isn't acorn a pepo? A three species mix up? Yup. Acorn is a pepo. I planted the Tetsukabuto F1 at the far end of the squash field. It grew surrounded by pepos. The closest non-pepo squash was about 50 feet away. I opened the fruits today. About half the seeds look viable. About half were empty shells. hee hee. I was attempting a 3 species hook-up the way I do most things... Recruit the bees to do the pollinations for me. |
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Post by walt on Nov 15, 2017 13:02:43 GMT -5
I am always annoyed that bees don't record their pollinatons. I know that you have come to terms with bees on this issue, Joeseph, but sometimes I'm so annoyed that I just want to go seal their honey. But they have a strong union and I can't afford them going on strike.
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Post by RpR on Nov 15, 2017 13:27:34 GMT -5
I had a good squash season as I have said yet I still like variety and next year will try another variety or two.
I like the Kabocha and either will have volunteers or new seed and it will probably be awhile before I ever put an acorn in the ground again.
Thirty years ago I did do well with Hubbard but they were huge. I have tried Kuri, good flesh but unlike the BIG Hubbard or this years Kabocha, not a failure but not a great return.
I have had Butter Nut and am tired of them.
I was thinking of Turks Turban which fifteen years ago did pretty good but as there are far fewer people in the family now they sit in the cellar for awhile and good storage means more now than before.
What other varieties have dense firm flesh and the "nutty" flavor articles always speak about?
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Post by mskrieger on Nov 15, 2017 15:10:25 GMT -5
Mm, I used to buy Turks Turban from farmer's markets in Montreal, they were delicious. Very popular there, in all the markets in autumn.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 15, 2017 15:45:27 GMT -5
I am always annoyed that bees don't record their pollinatons. It is even worse this year. Because the Tetsukabuto F2 seeds that I planted, were grown by someone else. So I don't have the slightest guess at who's the daddy, not even the daddy's species! |
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