Day
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When in doubt, grow it out.
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Post by Day on Sept 3, 2017 11:11:38 GMT -5
philagardener - I'll take basic for a start xD The trouble with learning this stuff isn't doing the research (I love reading and learning), it's finding the research. There's this gulf between very basic Mendelian genetics and punnet squares (which a lot of us learn about in school even) and then full genome, complete comprehension, complicated stuff. I'm doing my best to bridge this gap, but the resources are few and far between. I can find free articles online, often posted by other bloggers or on forums, that highlight what I already know -- then I can find the extremely technical, no hand holding research papers behind password protection that I can hardly understand (when I manage to get my hands on one). I'm desperately seeking books, papers, websites, anything, that will help me conquer the intermediary genetics. Go from punnet squares to precursor chemicals and biosynthetic pathways I think I'll actually put a post up about that, maybe others can share their insight as to what books/subscriptions/etc are worth the price for learning purposes, and which are not. I've had such bad luck choosing books lately that it's about time I stop throwing money at the problem and ask for some targeted advice. reed - Ha that's perfect! It sounds technical, too. Put on your wire rimmed glasses and start lecturing out the benefits of planting vegetables that fit the G + L equation and I'm sure they'll think you're a full blown geneticist in no time!
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Post by steev on Sept 3, 2017 18:24:18 GMT -5
First: how dare you suggest that males have an inherent weakness? If we don't see it, it isn't there; clear enough?
OMG; Labor Day weekend; as "Utah" Phillips pointed out; work is what we do for ourselves; toil is what we do for others (money). May we all live to work (it's a piss-poor life, if you don't), but not need to toil.
Be well, live long, and prosper.
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Day
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When in doubt, grow it out.
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Post by Day on Sept 13, 2017 12:31:25 GMT -5
Ok, a belated update, but I've collected about 10 or so beans from 1 and 2 bean early pods. The 'main crop' is starting to dry down now, and some of the pods are showing faint purple mottling as well as purple tinted strings. The earlier, less than half filled pods did not show these traits. Any thoughts? Rattlesnake bean comes to mind, concerning the pod mottling. As always, please forgive the crappy photo quality. -- Also, in another little bed where I planted more of the original baker creek magpie beans (which purple palm came from), I have two more plants showing purple flowers. One is running up the cucumber trellis, just like the original purple palm, but the other is staying in a tall bush form. Both are having trouble holding onto their blossoms, just like purple palm. They've set no beans yet, while their typical magpie compatriots have. I've tagged them for future observation.
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Post by steev on Sept 14, 2017 2:26:07 GMT -5
Not to offend, but that's some crappy white-looking soil; is there really no organic matter locally available that will help melanize your soil? I think the results would please you.
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Day
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When in doubt, grow it out.
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Post by Day on Sept 14, 2017 10:46:27 GMT -5
No offense taken; I'm basically stuck gardening on a sandbox. I moved into this place only six months ago. The yard is almost exclusively sand. To the point that you can grab a handful of the topsoil and let it sift through your fingers as if you were at the beach. The yard's also been sitting uncultivated and watered for 5+ years. Weeds hardly even grow, it's that devoid of nutrients and organic matter.
My compost piles are pretty raw still, and since I'm renting I'm trying to be very frugal about how I allocate my financial resources. That said, most of my garden beds do in fact have rough compost/rotted chicken manure mixed in under the surface, along with bone meal and sul po mag amendments. This bed, however, does not have any amendment - as you can tell.
As I explained in the link on my first post, this was not supposed to be a permanent bed. I planted a few beans as a test when I first moved in to see if this area of the yard would get too much sun for beans to survive and produce in our summer. It did. When I discovered this rogue, or accidental F1, however, I wanted to keep it. So I erected a 'Palm umbrella' to shade it from the worst of the sun and side dressed with some manure tea and amendments but otherwise left it along. Once these beans are collected, I will actually be able to cultivate this bed properly.
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Day
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When in doubt, grow it out.
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Post by Day on Dec 18, 2017 1:57:30 GMT -5
Long while since an update! But not too much has happened, so it's all good. Along with purple palm, two other plants from the "hm, why are some of these magpie beans from the seed packet shaped funny? Let's sow them separately" grow out resulted in off type beans. I'm not at home at present and therefore cannot show an image of the first, but it's basically a filet bean in the shape of magpie (while purple palm is more like a mini flattened kidney) but with no white mark and a definite dark blue/nearly black color under a lamp. Plant was a tall bush with purple flowers, according to my notes (nicknamed 'big blue'). I did however take a picture of the second one before leaving. Plant was half runner (3-4 ft ish) with purple flowers. It's been nicknamed "Camo." These were particularly interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing the F2 segregation. Any guesses as to who daddy might be?
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