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Post by prairiegardens on Mar 6, 2020 12:00:31 GMT -5
just seems hard to imagine that it would be hard to catch them when they are in swarms like this of up to a million strong..and don't many if not most people have mosquito netting in those areas now that could be pressed into service during the day? Like people used to catch birds during migration when they came down to feed? (Though I don't believe they used mosquito netting)
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Post by flowerbug on Mar 7, 2020 8:08:55 GMT -5
if i had enough netting to catch them and knew they hadn't been sprayed i'd surely eat them, they are not bad fried/roasted, crunchy and a bit resinous but not inedible and when starving a perfectly legitimate source of food. the more general problem is that if i had enough netting to catch them would also be to protect at least some of the gardens.
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Post by reed on Mar 19, 2020 2:32:42 GMT -5
Still not post apocalypse, too many of us are still here. More like apocalypse eve and getting real close to midnight.
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Post by steev on Mar 19, 2020 11:11:58 GMT -5
Yesss... Well, covid may help with the over-population a tad.
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Post by prairiegardens on Mar 19, 2020 20:08:44 GMT -5
maybe not much as it's supposed to be mostly older ( retirement age plus) folk and people with severely compromised immune systems who are dying, neither of which population is likely to be contributing much to population growth. In the meantime people are stuck at home with no particular jobs to do, baby boom anyone? Seems I read somewhere years ago that fear of dying (and relief when the fear was removed) is a mighty aphrodisiac ....like the baby boom after WW 2. Certainly a whole lot of people appear to be in some sort of panic mode. Gotta wonder if it's the first and only time they've considered their own mortality, or just assumed, like the EverReady Bunny, they'd just go on and on.... or if they think they can deter a visit from the Grim Reaper by chucking toilet paper at him.
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Post by steev on Mar 22, 2020 23:30:37 GMT -5
Well, even an old croaker reduces the population. Yes, the NYC power failure had an effect, but it may be possible that humans may (one can hope) figure out that they are, in fact, the problem, being a resource that other organisms may evolve to exploit, and that we are expanding into the habitats of other species. We have no control over the evolution of other species, especially bacteria and viruses, which can mutate rapidly; we CAN have control of ourselves, if we will only grasp it; our survival as a species may depend on what we do. Am I optimistic about our response to this problem? Not so much.
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Post by flowerbug on Mar 23, 2020 8:10:14 GMT -5
the kids will be back in school by fall, life will be back to normal, for those who've not paid the ultimate price. just my guesses. i still wonder how many relations i will lose to this, too many in the vulnerable categories. in the meantime, snowed last night, looks nice outside, not quite gardening weather yet, but soon enough.
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Post by prairiegardens on Mar 23, 2020 13:20:00 GMT -5
I've been reading releases by doctors talking about how they know so little about this virus, they don't even know if it may become an annual event. which is an uncomfortable thought. But you are right on Steev, I also read a virologist who has been studying these things for a long time saying that we are encroaching further and further into territory previously more or less unexplored, to exploit whatever we might find there, and putting enormous pressure on the wild. It is responding by releasing some of the viruses etc that have been in those places for forever and gifting them to us. Thus we now have ebola and and MERS and now this among others.
He suggested that these things ( new viruses etc) are going to start coming at us relatively regularly.
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Post by flowerbug on Mar 23, 2020 13:53:49 GMT -5
i spend a lot of time in microbiology out of my own curiousity. i'm always amazed by the diversity of life and how it can adapt and persist. while humans may eventually wear out our welcome on this planet i'm pretty sure the viruses/bacteria,etc will remain.
one thing that i learned in recent years was that evolution works both ways... both up and down in terms of complexity and simplicity. some organisms will get more complicated as they absorb others and mutate while at the same time previous organisms already absorbed are undergoing simplification as their genome is incorporated into the nucleus.
i'm wondering if some day humans may redesign themselves in various ways and perhaps try to step away from organic chemical systems, but i suspect that is a story that will be told long after i am gone.
in the short term we are already messing about with machines/body type of parts and machine interfaces. as i'm well aware of the lack of actual security in computational devices of fixed designs i can't imagine being dumb enough myself to ever want to do that, but i suspect there will be plenty of people in the future who will get hooked up and owned...
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Post by steev on Mar 24, 2020 10:35:59 GMT -5
Foo! Just look at all the cyborgs walking and driving around like zombies with their heads up their cellphones.
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Post by reed on Mar 24, 2020 16:25:34 GMT -5
One thing I think is that trumpanzies see to be more prone to spreading it among themselves and fine with falling on their swords for the cause. The humans just have to keep away from them.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 24, 2020 17:10:59 GMT -5
Well, The last time we got too uppity we go the plague. Definitely culled the numbers.
I'm not sure having everyone stay home is the best idea. I remember when we were squidlettes, when one of us got sick, my mom would put us all in the same room, so we'd all get sick at once and she could get back to work. It was simple economics. One kid sick every week, all the kids sick for one week. None of us died from measles or mumps and mom got back to work bringing home that paycheck.
My girlfriend is a waitress, her husband is a chef. They can't not work for 3 months. The restaurant will go out of business if they have to closed for 3 months. I wonder how many thousands of people would have rather been sick for a week and back at it then forced to say home interminably so that old farts like me don't get sick and die?
On the good side, there's less crime and less pollution. Leo says lots less traffic.
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Post by flowerbug on Mar 24, 2020 21:29:32 GMT -5
if it were only getting sick for a week that would be so nice... alas, it just has some really nasty corner cases that will take out people who are vulnerable. right now there are a lot of people in my relations that are vulnerable including me. i don't wanna get sick! if i could completely avoid human contact for the next 6 months i would. i would have absolutely no trouble with that at all. i'm a near hermit anyways. Mom is not. if i get sick the most likely vector will be via Mom. i'm just hoping we can avoid it until they get a workable vaccine.
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Post by reed on Mar 25, 2020 9:00:11 GMT -5
I am not medical so not in direct contact but my job is related to preparedness, an hilarious term in retrospect, and response. I live in a community of and in my job subordinate to the trumpanzies. Two months ago I was laughed at for being an alarmist, listening to too much media hysteria, getting all worked up over a cold, a hoax.
Now the turmpanzies are asking and seemingly expecting me to have answers, how to fix things, how to respond, what to do. It's gone too far. It's growing exponentially as such things do. Letting it run it's course to protect the economy will kill a million or more people. Maybe that's a price we're willing to pay but unless doctors are instructed to ignore it and stay home and hospitals closed for the duration it will take the entire health care system with it. The only answer I have left is anyone who doesn't want this disease has to take care of themselves.
A stinking rotten diseased orange asshole and its band of oozing hemorrhoids has likely ushered in a modern dark ages. Excuse me if I seem a little raw about it. Clang, clang, bring out your dead.
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Post by steev on Mar 25, 2020 9:49:31 GMT -5
Traffic and parking are much like levels of thirty years ago, so refreshing. Maybe we'll also see population like thirty years ago, as well. Hell, no, don't bring out your dead; keep them to yourself; this is no time for sharing.
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