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Post by oxbowfarm on Jan 21, 2018 9:44:37 GMT -5
Sorry guys, the pics show just fine for me. I started using vgy.me after seeing richardw recommend it, and photobucket acct is not even accessible anymore. |
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Post by Day on Jan 21, 2018 12:06:35 GMT -5
The pictures display for me using IE but not Chrome. Some of Tom's also do not show with Chrome. If Tom is toomanyirons, than yeah, I don't see those either. I thought that was actually a placeholder post for future photos, woops. I currently use Firefox, for long ranty reasons I'll try to abstain from getting into. While I love the broswer aesthetics much much more than chrome, it does have some drawbacks. Like, I can't use google earth anymore without chrome :/ so no aerial photos from me, alas. But I digress. Sorry guys, the pics show just fine for me. I started using vgy.me after seeing richardw recommend it, and photobucket acct is not even accessible anymore. I don't think it's the hosting service (might be), I honestly think the newer browsers just came out with a new security update or something that is much more suspicious of embedded photos. IE is probably still working because... well, because it's IE... [ wiki-link] But I've completely derailed this thread from corn harvests, my apologies. |
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Post by farmermike on Jan 21, 2018 12:20:04 GMT -5
I can see all the photos just fine on my iPhone.
Occasionally, there seems to be a glitch and some photos disappear temporarily, but they always seem to come back.
I have had good luck with postimage.org. I don't store the images there. I just upload them and it sizes them and provides a link to copy and paste to a forum.
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 12:40:23 GMT -5
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 12:41:58 GMT -5
yes back in business, thanks farmermike
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 12:53:31 GMT -5
To help drag this thread back on topic, youre naughty Day. The pop corm mix as of this morning, much taller this summer thanks to the above average temperatures weve had over the last few months  |
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Post by Day on Jan 21, 2018 13:47:03 GMT -5
To help drag this thread back on topic, youre naughty Day. Helping! a few of the keeper ears from my 2017 painted mountain harvest  y'all can see my pic, right?  |
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 14:05:07 GMT -5
yep, looks nice too
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Post by RpR on Jan 21, 2018 15:17:16 GMT -5
Well, gee I checked and I CAN get the photos on IE. I now use IE, Chrome -- though I avoided it for a LONG time, Firefox and Opera. I have Chrome because on one of the forums and dude told how to make old Photobucket photos show up WITHOUT updating my Photobucket. I do not use IE often as I cannot get any video to function there. Opera is starting to act like IE with still photos. I do not use Firefox often because I cannot easily enlarge photos. SO, IT SEEMS, you are damned if you do and damned if you do not. Richard nice picture but who is buried in your garden?  Day, you almost make me want to plant that type of corn again but my squirrels like the white stuff.  |
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Post by reed on Jan 21, 2018 17:20:45 GMT -5
Pretty corn Day. In my garden PM matures very fast but a lot of ears tend to overshoot the shucks and attracts bugs and the like. I have crossed it to lots of other flour and flint corns and also have good amount crossed to a sweet swarm. I'll be growing a lot of these crosses this year. I want to keep the early maturity and small row number in mine so I'm putting up with the downside for now. What is you opinion of it, do you grind it for meal or anything? |
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Post by oxbowfarm on Jan 22, 2018 7:35:13 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Painted Mountain for climates east of the dryline. PM was developed almost exclusively from desert/high mountain adapted Native American corns. And Dave mainly selected it based on performance in an arid high mountain environment. So it is super early and cold-tolerant, but it has little if any significant resistance to fungal disease of any kind. PM is possibly the most susceptible corn I've ever grown to Northern Leaf Blight and it also gets common rust and grey leaf spot very badly. its also highly susceptible to all the various ear and stalk rots. If it wasn't such a lightning fast corn, to where it can almost mature a crop before the spores for NLB start blowing around and before rust and other diseases make it north to here, it probably wouldn't be able to make a crop. If you want to grow PM around here (or any of the parching corns like Mandan Parching Lavender, Parching Red Supai, etc,) you need to plant at the earliest possible planting date to hope to get a decent crop. I haven't grown Carol Deppe's Magic Manna series, but since they are basically reselected Painted Mountain I'd expect the same sort of thing to happen. If I were growing PM again, I'd cross it with Cargill NTZ Coroico and/or a Eastern Native Flour Corn like Cherokee White or Tuscarora to get some tolerance for fungal diseases. |
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Post by Day on Jan 22, 2018 12:16:00 GMT -5
Pretty corn Day . In my garden PM matures very fast but a lot of ears tend to overshoot the shucks and attracts bugs and the like. I have crossed it to lots of other flour and flint corns and also have good amount crossed to a sweet swarm. I'll be growing a lot of these crosses this year. I want to keep the early maturity and small row number in mine so I'm putting up with the downside for now. What is you opinion of it, do you grind it for meal or anything?Luckily my stock hasn't overshot husks except on one ear, one time. So I ate it  My biggest problem with painted are short ears. Increasing the cob length is my current focus. As for maturity... I get sprouts 4-6 days from sowing, tasseling 35-45 days from sowing, and 'mostly' dried down cobs +36 days after tasseling. So, all things playing nice, it really is a 75 day corn for me. The stalks don't lodge, as they're so short, and though the cobs aren't big and they usually only have 1 per stalk, with my long growing season I could get an unseemly number of crops per year. Urban backyards have a lot of downfalls, but critter depredation is usually minimal (knock on wood). And while ants happily farm aphids on the long season corn, they haven't bothered Painted yet. For my garden and growing conditions, it works wonderfully. As for how I use it... ya'll are going to think I'm craaazy... See, I'm still waiting on my mill. A friend promised me one of those old corona grinders, practically an antique, about a year ago. Her mom's old one, sitting in a box, yadda yadda. So I bought Painted because I love making bread and I wanted to play with using real flour corn. Grinder never panned out. But I still have the corn. So... uh.... I've just been.... eating it? Like, dried uncooked kernels. I know it sounds bonkers, but it's an amazing 'fidget food' for when you're watching tv or something and need to keep your fingers out of the potato chips. I'd say about 50% of the ears have this amazing, nutty savory flavor that goes behind just the corn taste. Unfortunately I shucked all my B quality kernels, which are the ones I'm eating (from short ears, not filled out, etc), all at once before tasting each cob individually. So each one is a surprise. Even so, the ones without this flavor aren't bad, just taste more like normal dry corn. So it is super early and cold-tolerant, but it has little if any significant resistance to fungal disease of any kind. PM is possibly the most susceptible corn I've ever grown to Northern Leaf Blight and it also gets common rust and grey leaf spot very badly. its also highly susceptible to all the various ear and stalk rots. [...] If I were growing PM again, I'd cross it with Cargill NTZ Coroico and/or a Eastern Native Flour Corn like Cherokee White or Tuscarora to get some tolerance for fungal diseases. While Painted grows great for me, I can imagine the issues growing the corn other places. Because of that (since I have family all over the US, especially wet and rainy PNW, that I'd love to convert them to gardeners ) I crossed Painted Mountain with an Andean corn last year. I'm trying both to work out the day-length sensitivity of the Andean varieties, and work in their cool-wet tolerance into painted mountain. It's going to be a long term, layered breeding project, but I'm excited to play with it. If you ever do end up crossing your Painted to get more fungal resistance, we should send our future grandkids grand corns on a play date. I'm sure they'd have a lot to learn from each other. |
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2018 12:53:40 GMT -5
Richard nice picture but who is buried in your garden? Cant remember there names, they were just door knockers each carrying a book. |
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2018 13:10:10 GMT -5
Thats interesting oxbowfarm that you say the Painted Mountain has little if any significant resistance to fungal disease of any kind, yet PM has been sold here by a few nurseries for some time, ive not heard of anyone having disease problems with it considering most of northern NZ is humid simi-subtropical, certainly not desert/high mountain. Ive never grown it but i would think it would do fine here. |
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Post by reed on Jan 22, 2018 13:10:28 GMT -5
All very interesting. I actually don't think I have any pure Painted Mountain seed left. It was all detasseled and added into both my sweet and flour patches. The sweet might be particularly interesting, the fathers are from a swarm of maybe 40 kinds of sweet including Lofthouse Astronomy Domine. Also included as fathers in the original crosses were Bodacious SE and Delectable SE, chosen cause of their reported disease resistance.
In my sweet corn I'm still deciding weather to detassel the PM again and reduce it to 1/4 or just turn it loose and start selecting from there.
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My biggest problem with painted are short ears. Increasing the cob length is my current focus. As for maturity... I get sprouts 4-6 days from sowing, tasseling 35-45 days from sowing, and 'mostly' dried down cobs +36 days after tasseling. So, all things playing nice, it really is a 75 day corn for me. The stalks don't lodge, as they're so short, and though the cobs aren't big and they usually only have 1 per stalk, with my long growing season I could get an unseemly number of crops per year. Urban backyards have a lot of downfalls, but critter depredation is usually minimal (knock on wood). And while ants happily farm aphids on the long season corn, they haven't bothered Painted yet.