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Post by rowan on Dec 27, 2017 13:36:47 GMT -5
I buy from some of the companies mentioned here and have been very happy, but your list should mention those who do not post internationally to avoid disappointment. I hate going to a new seller and seeing seeds thinks I would love to purchase, spend time going through the list and placing items in the cart, then find out they won't post to me after all that.
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Post by RpR on Dec 27, 2017 13:56:12 GMT -5
Dear Bow of Oxen Farms:
I was not going to order more till after the first to keep the c card bill this month below heart attack level but reading these posts has made me decide to be stop being a girly man and order anyway.
Happy New Year and Merry Orthodox Christmas.
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Post by paquebot on Dec 27, 2017 16:49:58 GMT -5
Vermont Bean and R. H. Shumway's are not really separate companies, they are subsidiary catalogs put out by Jung's they have occasionally got something in one or the other catalog that I find worth ordering, even though I consider Jung's on the whole to be SHADY and a dishonest seed operator on the whole,and it is annoying to have to order one seed from each company when I know full well its all getting collated at one packing house. Very very rarely do I use anything from a Jung's subsidiary. Shumway's catalog is old school cool though. What you apparently don't know is that you can combine Jung's, Shumway, Totally Tomatoes, and Vermont Bean when ordering from the Internet and just one shipping and handling charge. Martin |
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Post by walt on Dec 28, 2017 12:21:02 GMT -5
I'm glad reasons why you do or don't use a company are being posted. Different people will have different needs and different values. So we will like different companies. But I think there will be overlap. There are reasons that many of us will agree with and will be glad to know.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Dec 28, 2017 17:04:49 GMT -5
I buy from some of the companies mentioned here and have been very happy, but your list should mention those who do not post internationally to avoid disappointment. I hate going to a new seller and seeing seeds thinks I would love to purchase, spend time going through the list and placing items in the cart, then find out they won't post to me after all that. Rowan, sorry for the inconvenience. I honestly have never even looked into the int'l shipping abilities of any US company, it not being relevant to me. |
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Post by philagardener on Dec 28, 2017 18:20:07 GMT -5
I buy from some of the companies mentioned here and have been very happy, but your list should mention those who do not post internationally to avoid disappointment. I hate going to a new seller and seeing seeds thinks I would love to purchase, spend time going through the list and placing items in the cart, then find out they won't post to me after all that. Rowan, sorry for the inconvenience. I honestly have never even looked into the int'l shipping abilities of any US company, it not being relevant to me. Honestly, the number of Aussie companies that will ship to the US is pretty limited too . . .  |
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Post by steev on Dec 28, 2017 19:45:17 GMT -5
And then there are the US companies that won't ship certain things to Cali.
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Post by rowan on Dec 29, 2017 1:07:17 GMT -5
With the limited range of vegetable varieties available here I would have thought that there was nothing that an overseas buyer would find interesting enough to want. If you want something shipped from here I would be happy to purchase it and ship for repayment of the costs. |
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Post by templeton on Dec 29, 2017 1:39:56 GMT -5
Honestly, the number of Aussie companies that will ship to the US is pretty limited too . . . I do...  T |
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Post by steev on Dec 29, 2017 2:58:43 GMT -5
Well, we must not fail to respect those who don't respect official rules; not to say that I don't respect the rules, but fuck the "authorities". I'll not bitch about world-wide seed transport, but the control of such is really about Big Ag's control of agribusiness; it has nothing to do with seed-trade nor sustainability; they need to protect their mono-cultures (investments) from contamination, so they can continue to push their myth of petroleum-fueled fertilizer, pesticide, and herbicide as the way to feed the world. They don't care to feed the world, only their corporate bottom lines; but I rant, frequently.
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Post by walt on Dec 29, 2017 16:03:06 GMT -5
Steev. There is reason for what you just said. But there are also reasons to controle the import of certain plants. People do bring in pests and diseases with plant material. I always send import permits and have the seeds sent to a quarentine center. Not that the people I deal with always do it that way.
Getting a permit took me about an hour online. The permit is good for 3 years. While I had to list what type of seeds the permit is to cover (Irids, ei the whole iris family including gladious, crocus, freesias, and many other genera), and it takes only a few min. to ad another type of seeds (Adeniums in my case).
Amatures have brought in pests that no domestic citrus are resistant to. I'm sure there are many other such cases.
Professionals have done the same in other crops. To me it is worth the hassel.
Philagardener. Right about CA. And most seed dealers won't ship cotton seeds to any cotton producing state.
And Starfire Seeds wont ship any seed to Monatana due to state laws there. I'm not sure Starfire is still in business anyway. I know the owner is in poor health.
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Post by steev on Dec 29, 2017 19:53:51 GMT -5
I get the pest control regs, although I can't say I've known them to be fool-proof; even things that are permitted can turn out to be very bad ideas (such as logging off all the Redwoods that were fog-catchers on the East Bay hills, feeding many dry-season springs, and replacing them with Blue Eucalyptus, the detritus of which the local biome can't really process, leading to occasional disastrous wildfires).
At the rate US government is being dismantled, I doubt we'll have to worry much longer about these restrictions; not relying on a narrow range of crops is my plan.
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Post by imgrimmer on Jan 1, 2018 11:57:40 GMT -5
walt how do you get such an import permit? Can I do it as an foreign citizen as well?
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Post by philagardener on Jan 1, 2018 14:10:56 GMT -5
Generally restrictions are on the import end (bringing in, rather than exporting or sending out), so you would want a permit from Germany/EU (not US) - but perhaps I am misinterpreting the question.
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Post by RpR on Jan 1, 2018 16:47:08 GMT -5
Tried ordering Eureka Ensilage from Gurney's, cheap and large quantity compared to tiny packets too many are now.
Got a notice,out of stock and do not know if it will be restocked.
Fine except web site said -- IN STOCK.
When Henry's bought them and they moved, they went from good source, had there own magazine , to same old, same old mediocrity.
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