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Post by richardw on Jan 14, 2018 17:59:34 GMT -5
Didnt know there were so many. Currently growing three popping corn varieties together, only one is on that list 'Strawberry' another one know here in NZ is mini black may well have a different name overseas, the other is a supermarket locally grown corn.
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Post by philagardener on Jan 14, 2018 19:28:28 GMT -5
Yesterday I got bored while researching the 1880s so I jumped to the 1960s and 1970s to try to find what possible varieties my grandfather and father grew in that era. No luck yet but it was getting late, I got pooped out and quit. I was hoping a variety name would trigger a long lost memory of mine. I have to be more disciplined. Any idea what company they might have ordered their seed from? You might be able to locate a catalog from that era as a way of focusing that part of your search.
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Post by steev on Jan 14, 2018 20:53:08 GMT -5
Toom: I congratulate you on your memories; that they are connected to food is an even greater blessing, as that seems to keep them in touch.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 14, 2018 21:20:48 GMT -5
I've grown strawberry popcorn before. Way back around 2010 i grew some with my other indian (fint) corn. Later i stopped growing the strawberry popcorn but they must have crossed because i had a few cobs that had kernels popping on the cob in the summer heat still on the plant! They didn't pop well, but it was funny. p.s. Joseph Lofthouse grows the oldest form of popcorn known to man
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Post by grano on Jan 14, 2018 22:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by richardw on Jan 15, 2018 12:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by diane on Jan 15, 2018 13:47:47 GMT -5
Zea curagua, the Valparaiso corn, to which a sort of religious reputation is attached, on account of the grains which, when roasted, split regularly in the form of a cross. J.C. Loudon, Encyclopedia of Agriculture, Sixth Ed., London 1866
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Post by diane on Jan 15, 2018 15:04:17 GMT -5
Definitely Chile. It was named as a species by Abbe Don J. Ignatius Molina, who published it in 1782. It is now included in Zea mays, but I don't know when the change was made, or by whom.
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Post by diane on Jan 15, 2018 15:29:04 GMT -5
Cornucopia II lists a number of o.p. popcorns that you haven't yet listed above. The most interesting one to me is Chapalote. Pinole maize. Used popped: also toasted and ground into a sweet meal. One of the four most ancient corns. Slender ears; small brown, white or yellow kernels. A long season corn from Mexico, grown in the low hot desert. sold by Native Seeds/Search I just checked the NS/S website to see if they still list it, and they do. shop.nativeseeds.org/collections/corn-popcorn/products/zp090This is their description: Chapalote "Pinole Maiz" ZP090 A stunning corn variety that at one point was widely grown from southern Arizona to Sinaloa, Mexico. One of the most ancient races of corn. A gorgeous deep brown corn, ranging to a light tan color. Small-kernels, with slender ears. Plants are very tall (ca. 10-12 ft) and late-maturing. Makes a sweet meal excellent for pinole. Can also be popped. A staff favorite and top seller! Chapalote is adapted to southern latitudes and has a long growing season; be aware it may not perform well in northern climates.
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Post by reed on Jan 17, 2018 8:29:05 GMT -5
Interesting little story Baker Creek tells about that corn. Especially since corn that looks exactly like that is not uncommon around here. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly where I'v seen it over the yeas. Also unfortunately I didn't see any last year when I was looking for your rice kernel types. It always has been common enough though, I imagine I'll come across it again eventually.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Jan 17, 2018 14:15:19 GMT -5
I grew Chapalote in 2017. Very interesting plants. Very tall, very thick stalks, insanely thick at the base, with very large prop roots that made 3-4 layers up from the ground level. It was extremely long season and only my first transplanting overlapped in pollination with my flint corn. It had a lot of tillering as well. I managed to get 3 hybrid ears of Chapalote X Oxbow Flint. The rest of it was too late in maturity and didn't overlap pollination with my corn.
I did manage to harvest those three ears but they weren't mature at all. I'd say the milk line was right at the top of the kernels if that, but they were mature enough to be viable.
From the ears I've seen of Chapalote, and from the ears I did harvest, my estimation is that Chapalote would make a very inferior popcorn without a lot of generations of selecting for popping ability. It has largish, flat topped flint kernels for the most part, which is a terrible shape for good popping ability.
Its a neat corn, and has lots of great traits I want to add into my own flint corn, especially the stalks and roots. It is pretty susceptible to Northern Leaf Blight, and seems very resistant to Common Rust. Only one season of observations though.
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