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Post by johno on Nov 17, 2008 13:24:57 GMT -5
2009 Trade List
Available for Trade Beans: Golden Wax Royal Burgundy Taylor Horticultural Top Crop
Carrots: Tendersweet
Corn: Astronomy Domine sweet hybrid Cherokee Long Ear popcorn [Shipping corn requires a bubble envelope and extra postage, or I'd send the A.D. for free for seed development purposes... Either SASBE or 4 stamps (the fourth one covers the cost of a bubble envelope and is cheaper to ship) or 1 trade is fine for corn seed.]
Cowpeas: Arkansas Razorback Red Ripper Turkey Craw
Okra: Cowhorn Fife Creek Cowhorn
Pepper: Trinidad Perfume
Squash: saved from Tahitian, possibly crossed with Lav's Musquee du Provence?
Tomatoes: Beefsteak Black Cherry Brad's Black Heart - OUT Dr. Carolyn (Ivory) - OUT Granny Cantrell's Guernsey Island Reisetomate Tommy Toe Vorlon
Flowers and Herbs: breadseed poppies (sold as Hungarian blue, but they are pink...) Triple Curled parsley Zebrina hollyhocks Hollyhock mix
Wanted Varieties Burdock: Takinogawa Long or other culinary variety
Carrot: Oxheart
Collards: Cascade Glaze Green Glaze Greasy Greens
Onion: Day neutral or intermediate types
Salsify: Purple salsify - Tragopogon porrifolius - Mammoth Sandwich Island or other culinary variety Black salsify - Scorzonera hispanica - Belstar or other culinary variety
Squash: Black Futsu
Tomatoes: Sioux Other tomatoes that produce in extreme heat!
Not all are from this year, but all are from within the last two or three years at most. Amounts according to your request.
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Post by cff on Nov 20, 2008 14:57:41 GMT -5
Johno"
If your interested in Yellow collards I can take care of that for ya.
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Post by Alan on Nov 20, 2008 16:38:29 GMT -5
You'll love those yellow cabbage collards Johno, go for those! Greasy collards are good too, they need some work though, every strain I've grown is suffering from inbreding depression, though I might have some extra seed if you want some.
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Post by johno on Nov 21, 2008 11:20:40 GMT -5
I would like to try the yellow collards and any "greasy" types. Thanks guys! Small amounts of seed is fine.
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jason
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Post by jason on Nov 22, 2008 1:20:03 GMT -5
Hey johno,
I've got seeds for the wild yellow salsify if you would like them. I imagine these grow around you anyway, but if you want them they are yours!
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Post by canadamike on Nov 22, 2008 2:11:42 GMT -5
Wild yellow salsify? Is it edible and tasty?
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Post by flowerpower on Nov 22, 2008 6:01:25 GMT -5
John, you really want Burdock? The weedy one? lol
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Post by johno on Nov 22, 2008 11:41:16 GMT -5
I think I already have the weedy Burdock - does it have giant burrs in the fall? I was thinking along the lines of Japanese culinary varieties. Are they identical?
Same with salsify, culinary varieties is what I had in mind. Is it the same as scorzonera? But now you have me curious, Jason. I am ignorant of wild salsify, can you tell us a bit more about it? If it makes a comparable root, I'd be interested.
I just want to get into more root crops than carrots and parsnips. Anyone with a clue is welcome to educate me on this (please).
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jason
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Post by jason on Nov 22, 2008 12:32:14 GMT -5
The only commercial salsify variety I've seen is the 'mammoth sandwich island' and I haven't grown it for comparrison but the wild species are definitely edible. This guy from youtube says that the roots, leaves, and flower buds are edible which is pretty cool. It isn't scorzonera, it's Tragopogon. Wikipedia says that it is usually the purple salsify that is grown commercially, but both are edible. You've probably seen them. They have the big dandelion like seed heads. Here is a link to the youtube video and wikipedia: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYGIN0zKUUen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salsify
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Post by cff on Nov 22, 2008 13:04:38 GMT -5
Johno"
PM me your mailing address and I'll get these collards on the way
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Post by johno on Nov 22, 2008 13:26:40 GMT -5
cff, you've got mail.
jason, thank you for the links. If you want to use the wild salsify for trading with me, that would be great. Otherwise, I think I'll go after Purple salsify or Black salsify. Really interesting youtube video - we don't have that here in the wild that I know of.
Looks like I need to ammend my list again...
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Post by canadamike on Nov 22, 2008 18:12:30 GMT -5
jason, there is nothing wild about the salsify in the video, it is just feral, meaning grown ''à la wild''.The guy let's it grow where it wants.
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Post by johno on Nov 25, 2008 3:15:17 GMT -5
I was reading Seed to Seed, and noticed that the yellow flowered wild salsify does not cross with purple salsify, for what it's worth.
Also wanted to point out that I've added a few things to my list...
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Post by canadamike on Nov 25, 2008 4:35:47 GMT -5
here is a wikipedia description that says the opposite. T.mirus us is a cross of the said salsify species:
Goatsbeard are one example where hybrid speciation has been observed. In the early 1900s, humans introduced three species of goatsbeard into North America. These species, the Western Salsify (T. dubius), the Meadow Salsify (T. pratensis), and the Oyster Plant (T. porrifolius), are now common weeds in urban wastelands. In the 1950s, botanists found two new species in the regions of Idaho and Washington, where the three already known species overlapped. One new species, Tragopogon miscellus, is a tetraploid hybrid of T. dubius and T. pratensis. The other species, Tragopogon mirus, is also an allopolyploid, but its ancestors were T. dubius and T. porrifolius. These new species are usually referred to as "the Ownbey hybrids" after the botanist who first described them. The T. mirus population grows mainly by reproduction of its own members, but additional episodes of hybridization continue to add to the T. mirus population.
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Post by swisscharrd on Nov 26, 2008 12:49:36 GMT -5
I thought you guys were supposed to clear me up on things not just confuzzle me more. Salsify - is that the one I remember reading about that tastes of oysters?
WOW did not know we had garden stuff on YOU Tube - totally groovy man.
Johno - you have so many seeds- this site to so fabulous!
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