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Post by Alan on Jul 31, 2011 19:50:30 GMT -5
Paricularly productive, tasty, and with little catfacing and or cracking.
Mostly (since I've already been through the gammit of off colors) I'm looking for 5-12 ounce productive round slicers/juicers in red, yellow, pink, and orange, can be OP or hybrid or segregating or landrace. Preference to stuff that makes excellent juice, looks good on a market table, and qualifies as a survival type.
Also, looking for highly productive, crack resistant beefsteaks of all colors.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 1, 2011 6:27:51 GMT -5
From my California days, I would say that Black Krim would be up your alley. Right size, excellent coloration, phenomenal flavor, few blemishes. However, I can't get them to grow at all here. Hawaiian Pineapple is also good, but they are tad larger than your rate and they are more susceptible to cat facing. Aunt Ruby's will produce about 3 fruits of slicer size to every enormous fruit. Again, good flavor, fascinating color. For a red, I really liked the flavor and productivity of Stupice. Stupice seems to just like to grow and grow as I recall.
If you are considering marketability here, I recall the upscale markets in California selling "heirloom" tomatoes all mixed up in large boxes. 6 years ago, they were charged nearly $4 lb.
I sure wish I had seed to send you for all of these... I'm at the verge of plain giving up on tomatoes here.
Speaking of Stupice, I want to try them again here. Anyone got a few seed?
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 1, 2011 12:29:40 GMT -5
HeartsKosovo, pink Aggressive TasteHerman's Special OtherCherokee Green RedsChapman, beef Neves Azorean Red PSR-37, OP Early Girl orange/GoldAunt Gertie's Gold These are what we are trialing this year. We also have African Queen, Santa Clara Canner, and Indian Stripe. I have never, no matter what else I have grown, been able to beat the taste, productivity and all around easy of the Early Girl. Hence our turn to the PSR 37. Out of the gate this year the Neves was the first tomato, followed very quickly by Sungolds and PSR 37/Early Girl. This photo is an Early Girl. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 1, 2011 12:43:10 GMT -5
Here's the PSR 37. Note that it has something going on at the bottom of the plant. It's not as big as the Early Girl...however, big is not something we aspire too. Otherwise we'd grow Brandywines. The 10 foot tomato with 1 fruit. The tomatoes that we continued over from last year were Roman Stripe, Black Cherry, Isis Candy and Sungold. We have grown Early Girl for 22 years. The only other perfect tomato I have ever found was Dona. A French Girl. There is no longer an American Importer for this seed and I can only find them at extortionist prices. So, my 4 year mission is to seek out and find the "new" Early girl. I'm down to about 12 seeds of Early Girl left. And I won't buy more, so I really hope one of the tomatoes we are trialing over the next several years becomes a standout. I don't normally grow beefsteaks. I don't like them. They don't pick, they don't pack, they catface, they are not productive and they take all season. There, I said it. The tomato people are going to come at me and throw sticks and stones. Dr. Male forced me to grow the ones in the field. My thought is, we'll see. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 1, 2011 12:53:22 GMT -5
Below, Herman's Special which is looking pretty good. Haven't had a ripe one to taste yet. We've always grown canning tomatoes. Last year the Amish Paste was a standout. Dr. Male says that it is not a paste tomato. We also grew Roman Stripe, which I thought was good enough to carry over. Santa Clara Canner is our trial canner. To make it through the canning trial, you have to be saucy, like Steev, easy to peel, and be prolific as all get out. The canner has to jump from salsa to spag sauce with ease. Back to work. There's weeding to do and voles to vent. Attachments:
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 1, 2011 12:59:57 GMT -5
I don't grow beefsteak or Brandywine either. For me they are too long season, and too unproductive. What's the point of growing a 1.5 pound tomato if I have to pick it green the day before the garden gets hit by frost? Although, this year my dear sister gave me a whole flat of some type of tomato that contains "Brandywine" in the name. I planted them to show my gratitude for the gift.
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Post by DiggingDogFarm on Aug 1, 2011 13:50:23 GMT -5
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Post by steev on Aug 1, 2011 15:18:05 GMT -5
It could just be me, but any Early Girl I've tried in the last decade has had skin like plastic; I seem to remember they weren't like that when I first grew them.
Saucy? Arguably. Easy to peel? Not so much, very thick-skinned. Prolific? I've only spawned once; perhaps you refer to BS?
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Post by Alan on Aug 1, 2011 23:04:48 GMT -5
Ironically enough 12540 Dumont, those all (with the exception of the green entry) are ones I have not yet grownout. If you have some seed to share this fall I'd be greatly appreciative and would reciprocate with a trade. HeartsKosovo, pink Aggressive TasteHerman's Special OtherCherokee Green RedsChapman, beef Neves Azorean Red PSR-37, OP Early Girl orange/GoldAunt Gertie's Gold These are what we are trialing this year. We also have African Queen, Santa Clara Canner, and Indian Stripe. I have never, no matter what else I have grown, been able to beat the taste, productivity and all around easy of the Early Girl. Hence our turn to the PSR 37. Out of the gate this year the Neves was the first tomato, followed very quickly by Sungolds and PSR 37/Early Girl. This photo is an Early Girl.
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Post by grunt on Aug 2, 2011 0:07:29 GMT -5
Holly: I have a few seeds of Dona OP. They are a few years old, but your welcome to them if you want them. I know that most OP versions of hybrids are not necessarily that close to the original, but the descriptor I have on my seeds is pretty close to what the original has.
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Post by Darth Slater on Aug 13, 2011 8:51:08 GMT -5
I will make a package up Allan and get it to you asap. plese PM me your addy.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 13, 2011 23:14:03 GMT -5
Alan, my plan was to send all tomato seeds to Dan, of course, you'll get them too. Any one else, let me know.
Dan, yes please to the Dona's. Just throw them in with the Quebec seeds. When you get them...boy getting money to Canada is harder than picking blackberries. I have to go to Walmart to get Canadian Funds. This shows how bad I want those seeds. I would never willingly step into a Wally World.
Regards, Holly
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Post by bertiefox on Aug 14, 2011 8:36:11 GMT -5
Interesting that my 'cat faced' varieties like the pink Brandywines are the only ones attacked and devoured by the birds, while all the modern varieties of cherries and pear-shaped types are left well alone. What is it that the birds know, of which we are unaware?
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