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Post by DarJones on Aug 14, 2011 0:35:05 GMT -5
I've harvested almost all of my corn. From 5 rows each about 100 feet long, I wound up with:
1 - row of Cherokee Squaw X Silver King about 100 ears of decent corn of which 1/4 has the su gene and 1/4 of that 1/4 will be homozygous for su and se.
2 - rows of Buhl sweet corn which germinated very poorly because the seed was very old but still produced enough to shell out 2 or 3 gallons of decent seed. This will go to Sandhill.
2 - rows of Pennsylvania Butter Flavor popcorn which produced about 3 buckets of corn on the cob. It should shell down to 3 or 4 gallons of popcorn seed. This will go to Sandhill.
I will be keeping the Cherokee Squaw X Silver King sweet kernels for breeding work next year and the rest of the corn will be ground up for corn meal to make blue corn bread.
DarJones
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 14, 2011 14:31:19 GMT -5
High five to you Dar!! I hope we do as well next year. This year we didn't even produce enough to eat. Gotta love a drought!
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 14, 2011 15:40:53 GMT -5
Dar, does this mean if I order quickly from Sand Hill, I might get my Buhl? Every year they tell they're out.
I harvested about 400 ears of sweet (hybrid corn so far).
Still waiting on the Posole, The Texas Gourdseed and the Cascade cream cap.
All are looking good. I'm already running the chickens on the sweet corn. Once they are through cleaning up, I'm ready to plant broccoli
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Post by grunt on Aug 14, 2011 21:42:46 GMT -5
Holly: How much Buhl do you need?
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Post by DarJones on Aug 15, 2011 0:30:35 GMT -5
Lol, I'm in the middle of shelling out the breeding stock Buhl which is the best and most consistent ears. If you really want some Buhl, let either grunt or me know and you will get some.
DarJones
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 15, 2011 14:51:13 GMT -5
Well thanks, Dan is sending me some. Because, that's what Dan does. I can't plant it this year. It's one of those corns that has been on my list for 3 years! It's like the sweet potatoes at Sand Hill...you snooze, you lose.
Dar, I have this odd corn that makes pinecone ears....any ideas about it's orgin?
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Post by blueadzuki on Aug 15, 2011 15:39:25 GMT -5
Dar, I have this odd corn that makes pinecone ears....any ideas about it's orgin? Hmm, let's see. Of course things like stawberry popcorn and the other "rice" type popcorns have that pinecone shape. Texas shoepag has that cob shape, so sometihng part that might be pineconey. and it is really common in Andeans, though as mentioned the odds of an Andean actually fruiting up her are pretty slim.
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Post by DarJones on Aug 15, 2011 15:41:50 GMT -5
The cone shape is a common form for the Z. M. Conica subrace. You will find that it is almost always a popcorn type. You can find copies of Mangelsdorf's book on Ebay for about $10. Here the the number of one current auction. Anyone really interested in Corn will enjoy the read. You can make up your own mind re Mangelsdorf's tripartite theory of corn origin. My opinion is that he was pretty much wrong, that teosinte is indeed the parent species of corn and that podcorn as a single gene mutation was not part of the origin. cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310283572323DarJones
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 15, 2011 19:50:03 GMT -5
Dar,
I'm looking for the corn book with Dar in it. The one you can turn the page and say...ahha! It's a popcorn.
This is what I received, which is cool, but didn't in anyway indicate popcorn to me.
INSUBRIAN FLINTS AND SEMI-FLINTS
This complex is the result of convergent adaptation to a particular agrosystem centred in the peneplains of the Insubrian-Euganean region, where maize found a preferred habitat. It contains genetic material that can be traced back to various American sources and races. Their proximity and easy intercrossing generated intermediate forms, especially in the ’elliptical seed‘ group.
The most that I could find out about this group was that it was one one the few corns that survived mold and insects because of it's hard horny seeds. And that it's related to the Southern Gourdseed.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 16, 2011 4:53:25 GMT -5
I'd love to buy a pound of the popcorn.... mainly for eating! Since Joseph's, I haven't been able to enjoy any of the store bought garbage... =o(
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 16, 2011 22:27:20 GMT -5
Better ask Joseph, I'm scheduling beds for next year! That's a long time to wait for popcorn.
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Post by Alan on Aug 16, 2011 23:04:16 GMT -5
I have begun the Amanda Palmer harvest for the year begining with the 2 acres atop the hill here at Bishop's Homegrown. These plots were verly lightly fertilized with composted poultry litter (about half even of what I used last season for the low fertility Astronomy) and recieved no irrigation, they were also planted using a no till planter at the reccomended rate for modern commercial corn (how else am I gonna prove their productivity to local farmers if the population can't stand up to such methods, minus the chemicals obviously). The deer and raccons have done much damage to this part of my crop as has the drought but the crop has still produced and is producing viable seed and feed for humans and animals. Most selections are obviously coming from those stalks producing ears to high for deer damage and stalks too strong to be taken down by raccons.
This year Amanda was all over the place as the genetics for so many different and unique types of corns vied for their place in the field. Some pollination was spotty, some are dry grain now, some are 3/4 dry, some are 1/2 dry, some are in milk stage, and some are only now silking and tassleing giving the opporotunity for uniqe dtm selections.
Ironically some which are dry now are amongst the tallest at 15 feet or so with two good ears. These are my winners.
I'll try to post some pictures soon and will definitely blog shortly.
Down the hill there is a production plot of Amanda Palmer, still planted much thicker than it should be and still underfertilized (compared to commercial corns) it is a sight to behold. From it came two first place prizes at this years county fair, beating out the local farmers and their GMO hybrids.
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Post by steev on Aug 16, 2011 23:53:38 GMT -5
Congratulations!
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 17, 2011 8:50:24 GMT -5
I'll have about a dozen ears worth of seed from the wax corn I believe. I have half the seed spoken for at this point. I'm taking my seed for next year out of the second half and I'm willing to share that with interested persons.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 17, 2011 19:04:44 GMT -5
Dar, I'd like to have your opinion as to how Buhl keeps in the field, and off the stalk? I have a hard time comparing op's with hybrids like Kandy Korn. I can leave Kandy in the field for 7 more days. The sugar holds instead of turning to starch.
In our opinion is there any op corn that will do this?
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