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Post by Darth Slater on Sept 8, 2012 0:22:57 GMT -5
Here is one I got from Reinhard Kraft a Chocolate heart
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Post by richardw on Sept 8, 2012 0:28:59 GMT -5
looks nice ;D
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 8, 2012 22:21:29 GMT -5
Steev, my living room and kitchen are full of tomatoes. Every time I get one tray processed, Leo brings in another.
So far I've turned out spag sauce and mild salsa. The peppers aren't hot enough yet for spicy.
Hundreds more to go. The dehydrator is running every night.
Next year I'm only planting one row of tomatoes. I'm scaling way back.
The concords are here! So it's on to jelly before I do any more maters.
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Post by kctomato on Sept 9, 2012 11:37:21 GMT -5
When I get a blurry image w/ refractometer, I clean it w/ distilled water, wipe w/ scratch resistant cloth, recalibrate it to zero w/ distilled water, adjust the focus on the eye piece, dry w/ a scratch resistant cloth & then take another sample.
These things are temperature sensitive and even the self "temperature correcting" ones not perfect.
If the problem is persistent it may be that the lens has become scratched.
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Post by ilex on Sept 11, 2012 3:03:19 GMT -5
This year:
2 Cociols Beauty King Berkley Tie-Die Heart BioƱo Blue Bayou Blue Match Cherry Formigueira Cheste Costa Rica Cuarentena Esquena Verd Flor de Baladre Large Barred Boar Magic Trick Montserrat Morado Castellano Morado de la Cabrera (o Antiguo) Morado de Moncofar Morado Frances de Almazora Moruno Socuellamos Negro de Cuenca Pebrera de Jerica Pink Beauty Tie-Die Plano de Erandio Pork Chop Rascafria Red Boar Ribera de Ebro Rosa de Barbastro Antiguo Rosa Ple de L'Etern Rosado de Huernandia Rosado y Rojo San Fernando de Henares San Pedro Zaragozano Secano de Ares Valenciano de Ribesalbes Verde Claro Xodos de Enramar
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Post by RpR on Sept 12, 2012 15:02:24 GMT -5
Ilex: How big of a space do you have with all those varieties?
Are they in cages or staked up?
This year all of mine are well separated and so far have shown none of the ailments that hits tomatoes late in the year up here but at the same time, beyond my Green Zebra the only one really producing well is a volunteer whose variety I have no idea of.
It is a sweet, (I do mean sweet you can taste the sweetness, which I abhor) type that produce larger four inch diameter tomatoes. Two of my biggest plants, Delicious planted from seeds are large but not really producing many tomatoes and those are not ripe yet.
Some Roma, sale clearance, tomatoes I planted close to July are starting to produce well now. Just did another check and found a bunch of Boc-Car Willies hidden in the center of the plant.
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Post by ferdzy on Sept 12, 2012 15:44:18 GMT -5
Ilex, are those a lot of traditional Spanish varieties? Whereabouts in Spain are you?
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Post by ilex on Sept 13, 2012 3:24:02 GMT -5
Ilex: How big of a space do you have with all those varieties? Are they in cages or staked up? They are staked up, prunned to a single leader. Don't know how much space I'm using, will give it a look and give an stimate. From now on they start to get some fungus as days are warm and nights are cool, and relative humidity is always 60-70%. Should have some tomatoes until mid November. The biggest problem is TSWV which is very difficult to deal with. People around here also have many problems with Tuta absoluta, but I find that one easy to control or live with.
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Post by ilex on Sept 13, 2012 3:36:42 GMT -5
Ilex, are those a lot of traditional Spanish varieties? Whereabouts in Spain are you? Yes, mostly Spanish varieties. They need to be saved. Spain is a very diverse country with huge heirloom diversity ... most lost and almost unknown. The rest are from Brad Gates or Tom Wagner. Mostly as controls or interesting things. I'm in the East coast, 40-50 miles from Valencia.
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Post by ferdzy on Sept 13, 2012 19:25:30 GMT -5
Ilex, I don't really know that part of Spain (not that I know Spain well!) We did take the train from Granada to Barcelona in 2006 so went along the coast. Very beautiful. We had walked the camino de Santiago, then spent 2 weeks in the south and finished with a week in Barcelona... all too short a time.
We did our walking early in the spring so we saw lots of allotment gardens... with nothing much in them yet. We did see one man planting potatoes and asked what kind... Kennebec!
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Post by ilex on Sept 14, 2012 2:34:34 GMT -5
Europe, and specially Spain have very limiting laws regarding seeds, and more so regarding potatoes. You can't sell a seed potato if it's not certified, and you can't sell a vegetable seed if it's not in the official approved list of varieties. Putting something on the list cost money, so only big companies can list their varieties. For example, I'm looking for Spanish garlic, and I can find way more varieties in the US than in Spain.
There are virtually no places to buy Spanish seeds, so farmers plant what they can find ... comercial obviously. Exchange associations are mostly local and something fairly new, under the radar for anybody not very implicated with them. I discover new ones all the time. Nothing like SSE. There's also a mentality problem ... old varieties were seen as old, poor man's things, and anything foreign must be better. When you discover an old man growing something, they don't realize what they have, and usually try to hide it, as if they are doing something wrong. People start to change, but it's too late for most varieties. In the 50's or 60's many people were moving to the cities and most varieties were alive. From that moment, we are loosing them very fast. Nobody cared about our varieties and almost nobody collected them (quite few in genetic banks).
Another example ... I'm trying to convince an old man that grows a local tomato. Always says it's not worth it as it has very low productivity. It's true, you get 1 or 2 tomatoes per plant. But ... wait a moment ... if he grows it and saves it, it must be very good. Once he's no longer able to farm, it will be lost (now in his 80's at least).
Just think how many Italian or French varieties you know and how many Spanish. How many Spanish tomatoes can you find in the US (other that in GRIN)?
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Post by ferdzy on Sept 14, 2012 6:44:13 GMT -5
Don't think I know any Spanish tomatoes. I'm growing Listada de Gandia eggplant, I think that's about the only Spanish heirloom around in North America. It's funny though, everyone thinks it's Italian. Can't take 5 minutes to look at a map, I guess!
Since it was the Spanish who started so much exploration in the new world, you would think there would be lots of vegetables they brought back, not to mention their own things... it's really too bad. Good for you for doing what you can.
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Post by RpR on Oct 9, 2012 13:18:08 GMT -5
Well I have given up on trying to extend my vine ripe tomatoes, as we are having too may twenty degree nights and I am tired of covering and uncovering them plus the daytime temps. are really not high enough to do much ripening.
I picked the last two ripe ones yesterday.
I am going to pick the green ones and put them in the basement with the plants wintered down there under grow lights.
I going to pick the last two cauliflower and and few remaining potatoes and squaah and get it ready for being turned over, hopefully with sheep manure.
I did not really get many other than an odd tomato here and there until Sept. . That is a lot later than normal I managed to geta couple of dozen or so, so I am not too disappointed.
I did manage to get one ripe Honeydew melon, THAT made me happy.
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Post by nicky on Oct 9, 2012 15:05:27 GMT -5
I think that my season is done - all pulled by a few cherry plants, a few that I haven't tasted yet (& may not be able to before the killing frosts) & 2 more dwarf varieties in the greenhouse. I planted my largest variety ever: Absinthe, Amana Orange, Amazon Chocolate, Ananas Vert, Anna Russian , Arbuznyi, Aunt Ruby's German Green, Baccis Lutis, Barossa Moon (dw.project), Beauty Dwarf (dwarf Project), Ben Gantz, Berkeley Tie Dye Heart, Beryl Beauty, Bisingnano, Black Cherry, Black From Tula, Black Giant, Black Krim, Black Sea Man, Blush, Bradley, Brad's Black Heart, Brandywine Sudduth, Brandywine Yellow, Bychye Serdtse Oranzhevoe, Campbell 19, Captain Lucky, Carbon, Charlie's Green, Cherokee Green, Cherokee Purple, Chile Verde, Chocolate Cherry, Costoluto Genovese, Coyote, Crnkovic Yugoslavian, Cuostralee, Dancing With Smurfs, Dice's Mystery Black, Don Juan, Dorothy's Green, Dr.Wyche's Yellow, Dwarf Emerald Giant, Dwarf Jade Beauty, Dwarf Mr.Snow Green (dw.project), Earl's Faux, Earl's Green Cherry, Early Kus Ali, Evergreen, Geuerwerk, First Mate, Fish Lake Oxheart, Garden Lime, Gary'O Sena, German Cascade, Gianni, Gold Medal, Goose Creek, Grandma Oliver's Green, Granny's Heart, Green Doctors Frosted, Green Giant, Green Pear, Grub's Mystery Green, Guernsey Island Pink Blush, Hays, Huange se Chieh, Humph, Indian Chennai, Indian Delhi, Indian Stripe, Indian Stripe Potato Leaf, JD's Special C-Tex, Justine Heart, KBX, Kolea, Kosovo, Large Barred Boar, Lime Green Salad, Limmony, Lithuanian, Little Lucky, Little Lucky Heart, Lucinda, Lucky Cross, Malakhitovaya Shkatulka, Marmande, Matt's Wild, Mazarini, Minigold, Moldovan Green, Monkey Ass, Neves Azorean Red, Nicky Crain, Not Lemon Boy F2, Olive Hill, Orange Russian 117, Orlov Yellow, O Sena Green, OSU Blue, Paul Robeston, Primrose Gage, Principe Borghese, Purple Haze F4, Rebel Yell F5, Siletz, Snow White, Spears Tennessee Green, Stump of the World, Sungold, Sunsugar, Sweetie, terrhune, Tuxhorn, White Currant, White queen, White Tomesol, WOW, Yellow Tumbler. I wrote some tasting notes on my blog, with lots of photos: nickysgarden.wordpress.comThere were quite a few standouts this year. Tallest, most productive & 2nd best overall at the Buffalo-Niagara Tomato Taste Fest was White Currant. I didn't really enjoy the taste, but it made excellent tomato relish (: Taste Favourites were a varied bunch: Kosovo, Blush, Rebel Yell, Little Lucky, Malakhitovaya Shkatulka, Cuostralee, KBX, Ben Gantz, Stump of the World, Fish Lake Oxheart (wrong colour), 1st Mate, (Not) Lithuanian. I had several wrong seeds/crosses. Some were really tasty (: I missed my Florida Weave this year. The makeshift poles were difficult to deal with when tying up so many different plants. I managed to put up 2 dozen quarts of sauce, 2 dozen jars of salsa, a dozen of tomato relish, a dozen BBQ sauce & a dozen ketchup. I dried about 8 billion cherry varieties & gave up canning & froze about 300 more tomatoes to deal with in the winter! I also made tomato powder - very tasty. We also ate a few BLT's this summer (: I thought that all of this would shorten my "need to grow" 2013 list - but I am thinking of doubling it. Darn it.
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Post by ferdzy on Oct 9, 2012 17:00:40 GMT -5
Wow, Nicky, what a list. I thought I grew a lot! p.s. Welcome! Board needs moar Canadian!
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