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Post by hortusbrambonii on Jan 22, 2013 9:36:37 GMT -5
Rhizowen seems to have tried crossing C. ficifolia with maxima: radix4roots.blogspot.be/search/label/Cucurbita%20ficifolia%20x%20maximaI think I'll be growing 'Vif rouge d'Etampes' again and some hokkaido-varieties next year for the maxima department (apart from that baby blue hubbard). I had something called 'hundredweight' this year that was not that special, and a green japanese style/turban thingy that I quite liked of which I've forgotten the name. Thanks for that article on cucurbits btw, raymondo..
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 22, 2013 15:21:06 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for the link! That is an awesome photo! Having grown ficifloia before i can say that it's definitely a cross between ficifolia and a maxima. The year i grew my ficifolia i also grew a hubbard. It's possible they crossed, but probably not. But i don't think i will ever grow hubbards again... too much like rocks for me.
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Post by atash on Jan 22, 2013 15:44:32 GMT -5
I'm surprised he got that far. For those who didn't follow the link, he mentioned that a plant breeder mentioned usually having to do embryo rescue.
Here's the bad news:
I wonder if embryo rescue would have worked on the F2s.
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Post by atash on Jan 22, 2013 15:45:23 GMT -5
Yes, that is a pretty fruit. Bet it would be an awesome good keeper too.
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Post by galina on Feb 21, 2013 12:06:04 GMT -5
Thanks Joseph; That list might be accurate indeed... Except for that I never tried mixta (or ficifolia, which I suppose to be more warm-climate too) c moschata are tricky here too in UK, ficifolia is actually easy and grows well, does not need the warmth that moschatas need.
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Post by samyaza on Aug 5, 2015 3:21:14 GMT -5
This is a pretty old post but I plan to try a C. moschata in my northern situation. People seem to like this species the most for its flavor. I'm already fond of Red Kuri, which does well even on bad summers. Apart from Sucrine du Berry, are the butternuts Ponca or Waltham a good option ? They seem earlier than others. What about Canada Crookneck ? This one looks like a soooooo long keeper. It's such a shame Owen didn't manage to get viable seeds from this cross. Other people managed to bridge C. pepo, C. maxima and C. moschata so we could expect pretty advanced varieties some day : hortsci.ashspublications.org/content/47/4/452.fullCrossability with C. ficifolia and C. foetidissima seems more difficult to achieve but who knows ?
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Post by notonari on Aug 5, 2015 7:12:18 GMT -5
I'm growing three moschatas here in south Sweden this year: longue de nice, long island cheese, and waltham butternut. So far I've been pleasantly surprised with the two Waltham plants. Despite suboptimal weather they've been growing pretty well and already have a good number of fruits. I'll have to wait and see how well they mature of course, but I'd say Waltham looks like it's worth giving a shot. I did presow the seeds indoors though, then planted out the plants in the beginning of June (which is later than usual). I had hoped to save seed but the waltham started forming fruit before I ever saw a male flower on it so I suspect it cross-pollinated with some nearby C. pepo.
The maxima's (including red kuri) consistently do well here though, and I personally prefer the taste of the best maxima's over that of the butternuts I've tried so far.
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Post by notonari on Aug 14, 2015 2:39:17 GMT -5
update: I probably misidentified the two moschata that have been doing well in my garden so far. Based on the plants' mottled leaves and the size of the fruits it seems it's the longue de nice rather than the waltham butternut... So for cold tolerance you might want to look into longue de nice.
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