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Post by swamper on Jan 18, 2014 9:23:41 GMT -5
I think the 2014 list is complete, I planted the first of the chinense peppers on sunday. Many of the hybrids listed are f3 or later growouts. I'm really fond of louisiana arledge, but am still looking for a better source of seed. mariachi is another favorite:
Sweet annuums Chablis yummy Whitney chocolate (fedco)* mini apple sunset red bulls heart * lipstick odessa market * criolla *
hot annuums Arledge large Arledge Cveta f5 louisiana hot * Dancing spirits f3 Chocolate cherry Arledge bell aleppo fordsfiery * urfa biber * aleppo usda * mariachi Peppino demon
chinense Peru 238051 Pimiento de Chiero bonda annuumX bonda bulletX PI 281429 * Rey Pakal * Trinidad 7 pot white * bhut de neyde * 7 pot primo *
baccatum Inca red drop * Aji Omnicolor Aji Panca *
frutescens dante de perro
* new this year for me
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Post by kctomato on Jan 18, 2014 9:51:16 GMT -5
no ^purira^ ?
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Post by swamper on Jan 18, 2014 10:07:59 GMT -5
aji omnicolor is a good alternative, and it has a fruitier aroma. purira is just hot, cveta is another alternative that ripens deep red early is sweet/hot and is not seedy. still i miss ^purira^ and ultraset peppers. i saw stokes has a new sweet hybrid sweet pepper Chesapeake $27.25 for 25 seeds www.stokeseeds.com/product.aspx?ProductID=57717&CategoryID=116 I'd split a packet with someone, but can't justify that price.
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Post by trixtrax on Jan 18, 2014 19:32:41 GMT -5
Those look like some great varieties Swamper.
I have a type of Purira that not that hot. It is originally from Bolivia highlands, collected by Dr Gabriel Howearth years ago. A friend that interned with him for a season gave me some seeds that I've kept ever since. My friend said that he had searched for a frost tolerant chili, hiking up and down the altiplano for the correct altitude where the chili's weren't insanely hot but where they still maintained their frost tolerance. Apparently these seeds were from a semi-cultivated landrace. Well, I've selected these plants several years now and they do typically survive below freezing temps in the greenhouse, the lowest I've seen is -5.6C (22F) where I can bring the plants inside and they will often recover and fruit. Based on characteristics they appear to be C frutescens.
Looking to cross this selection with another frost hardy C frutescens.
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Post by swamper on Jan 18, 2014 20:52:59 GMT -5
Sounds like a great find. The purira I grew came from Seeds of Change, before M&M Mars bought the company. The genetic diversity of the various species is fascinating, and a cultivar that can survive frost could be very useful. Does it look like the common purira, yellow with purple streaks ripening red? Do the fruits have a good flavor?
I once wintered a tabasco plant on a windowsill and was amazed at how well it yielded the second year. I grew dante de perro in 2012 and it fruited very late in the season, so I didn't make much use of it, and cant tell you if it's frost tolerant. I thought I'd give it another try this year with an extra early start. The fruit's size relative to tabasco appealed to me.
There have been descriptions of frost tolerant Rocotos: C. Pubescens, but those have been refuted by others. I hope to see that frutescens.
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Post by cortona on Jan 19, 2014 6:34:36 GMT -5
a frost tollerant pepper is something greath! can we arrange an excange/trade?
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Post by hortusbrambonii on Jan 19, 2014 9:42:59 GMT -5
A frost-tolerant pepper sounds very interesting indeed
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Post by littleminnie on Jan 21, 2014 18:10:24 GMT -5
Is it ok to add a pepper list?
My 2014 list so far hot pepper, African Surprise hot pepper, Aji Amarillo hot pepper, Ancho hot pepper, Bhut Jolokia hot pepper, Black Hungarian hot pepper, cayenne hot pepper, habanero hot pepper, Hungarian Wax hot pepper, Jalapeno hot pepper, Jumbo Jalapeno hot pepper, Laotian hot pepper, lemon drop hot pepper, Numex hot pepper, serrano hot pepper, Shishito hot pepper, Siling Haba hot pepper, Thai
pepper, Aconcagua pepper, Ancient Sweets pepper, banana pepper, Cal Wonder pepper, chocolate pepper, Cubanelle pepper, Frank's pepper, Gold Cal pepper, Iko Iko pepper, lipstick pepper, Marconi red pepper, Marconi yellow pepper, mini belle pepper, Odessa Market pepper, orange bell pepper, purple bell pepper, red bell pepper, ta tong
I am reducing the number of plants I start. Peppers aren't a great seller for some reason. We eat lots of them.
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Post by trixtrax on Jan 24, 2014 1:16:39 GMT -5
swamper, cortona and hortusbrambonii I'll send you a bit of seed but it will be only a few seeds this year until I bulk up again.
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Post by cortona on Jan 25, 2014 6:11:07 GMT -5
trixtrax thanks a lot! a frost tollerant peppers is sooo good, a question, are the peppers that live higger in the mountain more frost tollerant but more hot?
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Post by swamper on Jan 25, 2014 9:04:59 GMT -5
thanks trixtrax, pm sent
nice list minnie, I'm interested in which peppers make heavy ripe fruit quickly? and of those which ripen mostly sound fruit vs deteriorating on the plant. i like thicker flesh vs thin, and flavor...
for better or worse i like to let peppers ripen on the plant, though i'm sure this reduces yield dramatically in some varieties. Last year I grew an f2 and got 2 distinct phenotypes, i decided to harvest the fruits from the one i didnt like, and cook them up, and was amazed at how fast the plants were full of peppers again and again. i didn't get nearly the yield from the type i let mature fully.
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Post by stratcat on Jan 25, 2014 14:40:39 GMT -5
I'm overwintering a 2O13 Purira that I grew from 2OO6 saved seed. Houseplants and I don't get along, but... so far, so good.
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Post by littleminnie on Jan 25, 2014 20:43:44 GMT -5
Odessa Market is a very early and very thick fruited variety.
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Post by trixtrax on Jan 27, 2014 19:43:38 GMT -5
Neat stratcat, would love to hear how the project goes
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Post by stratcat on Jan 28, 2014 18:13:23 GMT -5
Hi, Trixtrax. Here's a shot today of my 2O13 Purira looking at my cottage garden out the West window. Back in the Fall, I brought the pot in to harvest the seed and I got distracted. It's still going...
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