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Post by coppice on Jan 23, 2014 8:47:50 GMT -5
In past threads (of years gone by) at least one photo-set was taken of very large persian walnut and pecan.
Looks like something NC Weeks would'a collected.
I'd love to follow up on those for a local reforstry project. Will happy purchace nuts and grow out my own if needed.
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Post by blueadzuki on Jan 24, 2014 10:58:07 GMT -5
Coppice, if you remind me around May, I'll go and see if I can find any of those huge persian walnuts from China I was digging out of that bin in Chinatown (along with all of the other odd nuts). (I split my year between two Chinatowns, and wont be back in that area until around May I think.) Just bear in mind that those nuts are pretty variable with regards to fulness; a lot of the really big ones seemed to have insides that were really shriveled (so no gurantees about viability).
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Post by billw on Jan 24, 2014 10:59:04 GMT -5
I'm really 12 or 13 at heart.
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Post by trixtrax on Jan 24, 2014 15:30:54 GMT -5
Exactly, feel the same way. Never extinguish that childhood spirit
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 21:05:50 GMT -5
I have been faithfully harvesting walnuts from my neighbor's property, for many years ongoing, and took this line of discussion a little more seriously when her usual homeowner's insurance had wanted her to cut down a big, old tree for veneers. A single branch grew over her eve, and was visible from a private easement, owned by my family. It has been a part of the neighborhood, for my whole life. English walnut is grafted to black walnut, here. The burl at the union was nearly 10ft across. This tree produced all different shapes and sizes of walnuts, which would apparently be screened for uniformity if processed in a factory. A few of my neighbor's nuts approached the larger sizes, which I see in photos, and I am wondering whether this results naturally from an ancient tree. www.ebay.com/itm/Giant-Big-huge-Nut-walnut-tree-fresh-Seed-from-2013-Rare-seeds-Last-99-seeds-/131089514842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e858b415a&autorefresh=trueSeller :bulibasavictor Reserve price is apparently set above $15, because that 'highest offer' is refused on the spot. His illustration shows you several nuts, but the description was ~50USD for only one. www.burntridgenursery.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NSWACOOKI had originally asked about viable hazelnuts, by the pound - a special favor. It has taken me about 5 times, to get my order right, via Email. Also, they apparently accept orders, in advance, but do not charge until they are ready to ship. I do not like to be a high maintenance customer, would have preferred to quietly use the shopping cart and be billed, instantly. I don't consider myself a breeding expert but am reminded of the giant pumpkins, apparently a cross a between an ordinary pumpkin and a Japanese 'gourd.' If I meant to break size limits with nuts, it occurs to me that many different Juglans will pollinate a walnut, and that variation is desirable for selective breeding. There also ways to cheat, imho. What if branches were girdled or treated with hormones, like grapes? Colchicine resulted in genetic anomalies of fruit. I understood that a majority of the offspring would die, and the survivors were less likely to produce seed. And, I have also heard of pressing together several seeds of fruit, supposedly resulting in more vigor. Feral Juglans, in my area, are only found near streams or moister crevices of hillsides. Dry yards produced teeny nuts, smaller than a nickel, many of which contained no kernels. I would think to use hardier rootstock, although most people regard that sort of talk as a trade secret. My neighbor had small kids, one with special needs. She watered the grass, furiously, to create a soft surface. I think the shallow, lateral roots provided lots of vigor, although the English walnut is supposed to be prone to rot, and that fertilizer would actually find it's way to the nuts on a huge tree. aimho
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Post by coppice on Jan 30, 2014 12:58:33 GMT -5
Coppice, if you remind me around May, I'll go and see if I can find any of those huge persian walnuts from China I was digging out of that bin in Chinatown (along with all of the other odd nuts). (I split my year between two Chinatowns, and wont be back in that area until around May I think.) Just bear in mind that those nuts are pretty variable with regards to fulness; a lot of the really big ones seemed to have insides that were really shriveled (so no gurantees about viability). Oh OO he said jumping up and down. I haven't gone totally senile. I was hoping this forum was the originator of my recollection. May is fine. and providence will maybe grant us the chance to get lucky. When the original post started, I didn't have either permission to use bedding space, or a place to reforest. Wisteria campground has a whole grant with more than half scarred from strip mining. It'll be worth digging out a nesting spot for several of those nut-trees and they can sit and grow till long after I'm dead.
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Post by coppice on Jan 30, 2014 13:04:18 GMT -5
The current minimum bid for 5 nuts is $49.00. Its out past my ability to buy.
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Post by Hristo on Jan 30, 2014 15:16:18 GMT -5
$49 for 5 nuts (shipping included) seems a bit high, but "Package includes: one fresh giant walnut seed packed with care !" seems...
Walnuts with such size are not unknown here (10+ years ago we had one tree in our property), but the problem is that usually their kernels are pretty slim. I would love to see the kernels of these ones. Anyway even if they are plump it's not worth for 1 nut, a scion yes, but nuts usually give standard progeny.
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Post by nicollas on Jan 31, 2014 11:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 0:15:10 GMT -5
(Thx, translate.google!) Could I ask how requests work, at fruitiers.net?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 0:19:21 GMT -5
I know conventional walnuts as "Juglans regia."
Apparently, "maxima" will be a useful search term.
I am reading that maximas do not keep well in October. During this time of year. a drying 'Santa Ana' wind blows, in my area. So long as they're not left on the ground, ours will last for months.
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Post by nicollas on Feb 6, 2014 2:37:14 GMT -5
Could I ask how requests work, at fruitiers.net? You open an account there : fruitiers.net/creer_compte.phpEnter the cultivars you own (available or unavailable for trade), go to the page of the cultivar you want, see the list of people who own it on the bottom of the page (you must be connected) and start a transaction with him. In general it is a 1 to 1 trade.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 19:26:41 GMT -5
Thank you very much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 17:10:51 GMT -5
Burnt Ridge is apparently out of the Cooke's Giant Walnut seedlings, this year.
I like their website, alot, but, to be honest, I am having a complicated time placing an order.
I was ultimately offered a more-expensive, grafted tree, after making a payment.
This selection is apparently named after a supplier, with a small, online presence, fwiw.
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