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Post by oxbowfarm on Mar 26, 2014 7:39:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know of plans for old school cold frame lights, Dutch lights? The kind with the overlapped glass panes, as in the Victorian Kitchen Gardener? I have a router etc for making the frames, and a vague sense of how they are constructed, but I'd love some specifics. There are usually some very specific constructions details that are not obvious from just looking at a video etc.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Mar 26, 2014 7:40:31 GMT -5
Online source would be preferred, but any written reference to these would be awesome.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 26, 2014 21:33:42 GMT -5
probably not what you are looking for... www.savvygardener.com/Features/cold_frames-hotbeds.html Building & Using Cold Frames: Garden Way Publishing Bulletin A-39 by Charles Siegchrist (Jan 11, 1997) The Complete Greenhouse Book: Building and Using Greenhouses from Cold-Frames to Solar Structures by Peter Clegg and Derry Watkins (Nov 1978) Also page 123 of your "Country Living Ency". So, ya think... we were thinking alike? I want the white one with the removable roof!
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Post by steev on Mar 26, 2014 22:40:15 GMT -5
Cold-frame? No; I want a green-house like Richard's.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Mar 27, 2014 7:12:25 GMT -5
Thanks Holly, I'm really looking for some detailed construction plans for the lights themselves. I know I've seen them before. There's a trick to fitting the glass while minimizing the horizontal wood that would hold water and rot. I'd really like to have a set of big frames with lights for hardening off seedlings more professionally.
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Post by jondear on Mar 27, 2014 9:59:06 GMT -5
My next frame will be made with polycarbonate. Plastic needs replacing and I'm too rough on things to make it with glass.
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Post by raymondo on Mar 27, 2014 14:40:07 GMT -5
Thanks Holly, I'm really looking for some detailed construction plans for the lights themselves. I know I've seen them before. There's a trick to fitting the glass while minimizing the horizontal wood that would hold water and rot. I'd really like to have a set of big frames with lights for hardening off seedlings more professionally. I think the Eliot Coleman design, based on the old Victorian cold frames, is pretty good. He fits the glass so that rain can run off the lights.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Mar 27, 2014 18:35:36 GMT -5
Do you remember which of Elliot's books that was in Ray?
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Post by jondear on Mar 27, 2014 19:43:13 GMT -5
Four season harvest has a picture of a lite on page 72. I would think you could improve on the design with better joinery on the corners but the basic design seems good.
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Post by philagardener on Mar 27, 2014 20:38:54 GMT -5
How about overlapping the pieces of glass like shingles in a row? Then the rain just runs down to the end and falls off. From ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1013.html Older greenhouses were constructed like this without horizontal sashes for the same reason. You want the lower edge to overlap the bottom of the frame by a little bit so there is no barrier to shedding rain.
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Post by MikeH on Mar 28, 2014 4:12:39 GMT -5
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Post by oxbowfarm on Mar 28, 2014 8:33:44 GMT -5
That actually is an article by Elliot. And pictures of Elliot. He's everywhere. Now his kids are everywhere.
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Post by jondear on Mar 28, 2014 12:52:51 GMT -5
I have every intention to make it down to Four Season Farm this summer.
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