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Post by vieira on May 12, 2008 16:28:07 GMT -5
hello all!
its only my 2nd year growing cukes.
this year i'm growing 6 varieties!!
well, thats a problem because i have a limited amount of ground space.
my question is how cucumbers do with crossings.
they dont cross....
they cross at a relative short distance
they cross at a long distance only.
please leave me your feedback
Regards from Portugal
V.
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Post by grungy on May 12, 2008 17:02:56 GMT -5
They cross at a very short distance. If you are trying to save pure seed, try bagging the female blossoms and hand pollinating several of them with male flowers of the same variety.
Cheers,
Val
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Post by canadamike on May 12, 2008 20:15:17 GMT -5
Welcome here Vieira! On the other hand, you could have a lot of fun with crossing them and creating the Vieira cucumber, something you should try to have fun. If you feel like it, come back here or PM me, or Grungy who just answered you, and any of us or tons of other people here will be pleased to guide you. Crosing cucurbits is probably the funniest and easiest of all possible crossings.
Do you know a bit about hybrid, F-1 generation, F-2 and on and on, if not and want to have fun, get ready for a ride, you will!!
The forum is slow at this time of the year, most of the active people here are small professional growers, farmers, or serious collectors...We also have lots of city folks very knowledgeable in gardening, but they, too, tend to have big gardens and are busy with the kids and the planting etc...
We are very glad to have you aboard, you are the first person from Portugal!! Hooray!!
If you need any advice, are searching for some seeds, just ask here...a lot of great people will offer you what they have for free and the chance to make a new trading friend. I offer you all my collection, alan sure does the same ( THE FOUNDER AKA GOD ;D), and a lot of us are working on creating new varieies of vegetables and fruits...
Would you happen to be interested in crossing some melons by any chance? I would send you some seeds to make interesting crosses and...the vieira melon...it will be delicious, don't worry.
PM me if you want, you could have fun and help too...
Michel
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Post by flowerpower on May 12, 2008 20:59:58 GMT -5
I saved seed from a gourd I got at a farmer's market. The resulting fruit looked like a gourd, smelled and looked like a cuke on the inside. You never know what can happen.
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Post by americangardener on May 12, 2008 21:51:44 GMT -5
hello all! its only my 2nd year growing cukes. this year i'm growing 6 varieties!! well, thats a problem because i have a limited amount of ground space. my question is how cucumbers do with crossings. they dont cross.... they cross at a relative short distance they cross at a long distance only. please leave me your feedback Regards from Portugal V. Welcome to our little group Vieira... I'm sure you'll like it here. This is a small group, but one of the most active forumns I've ever found for one this size. And you won't find a more knowledgable bunch of people anywhere else on the web. If you have any other questions, i have no doubt that we'll get you the most accurate answers possible. So, i hope you'll check back often.. unlike some other groups, here you'll get your answers quickly. Your question was about cucumbers crossing and already Val has given you an answer to that.. Yes, they cross quite readily. Bout the only thing i would add to that is that you can also tie the blossoms shut instead of using bags. Just by using pieces of string or thread. That'd be your best bet to hand pollinate em since you have six varieties you're growing. Even if you have the room to isolate, that's the surest way to get pure seeds... and it's not that difficult. If you want more info about saving seeds, i'd be glad to help... as i'm sure everyone else will too. Like Michel, i'd have to know a little bit more about what you already know to really help ya out. Are any of those cucumbers you're growing hybrids? Do you know if they are monoecious, gyneocious, or parthenocarpic varieties? It will make a difference on how you go about pollinating em and which you can save pure seeds from. I'm only guessing from your question that the reason you asked was because you are interested in saving seed. If that's the case then I'm sure you'll have plenty of more questions later on. Feel free to ask.. if we can't help ya... no one can! And like Michel also mentioned if you ever need any seeds.. I'd be another one that would be glad to help out with that too. Welcome aboard... Dave |
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Post by vieira on May 13, 2008 3:35:09 GMT -5
hello you all :-)
as i've said to Michel i could ask for a more wellcoming reception!!
thank you :-)
so far, i've realised ill be having lots of crosses, he he, because i planted my first seedlings separated by no more that 0.5m, (+-3feet).
i still have some more seedlings growing im my greenhouse, so i'll not make the same mistake again.
in my small farm i have 2 problems.
i never know if will have enough water to last all summer, these last few years have been crazy.
its spring here and all cultures are delayed because of the cold weather.
an my other problem is bees.... he latest fires have killed a big portion of them.
i have to hand polinate gourds, pumpkins and similars if i want to have a good production.
i'll be receptive to all kings of seeds.
i dont know if it happens the same with you, but i get the most of it by seeing the things grow, not by the result in the end.
for example, i grow tomatos, some 4 varieties, and i hate tomatos, but i like to see them grow and to pick them.
all my neighbours and family are responsable to make them disapear :-)
if you want some seeds from me, please ask.
i hope i can bring new things to the forum.
P.S. can someone tell me if a can make the forum send me a message when a message that i'm following is answered?
sorry about my bad english... i'm a little rusty :-)
Regards from Portugal
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Post by raymondo on May 13, 2008 4:54:41 GMT -5
Hello vieira and welcome. The first step is to go to your profile and set up how you want to be notified of changes in threads you are watching. In profile, click 'Bookmark' and then select what you want. Don't forget to save/update your changes.
From then on, each time you want to bookmark a thread, click the word 'bookmark' which appears at the top and bottom of each thread, in the blue bar to the left.
When you click this, it changes to 'remove bookmark' so you can click on it any time to stop following the thread.
Hope this helps.
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Post by johno on May 13, 2008 18:37:44 GMT -5
Boa vinda a Homegrown Goodness, Vieira!
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Post by canadamike on May 13, 2008 20:44:11 GMT -5
Vieira: Do you have your own hive that you can move around, it could help you a lot. As for water, cucurbits love it dry but thet are thirsty, do you mulch? Admiro-me se o plástico preto pode ajudar em um clima como o seu, talvez você pode descrever as suas estações, estou seguro que há um lugar aqui que tem um clima semelhante, e provavelmente temos alguém para o sustentar ... mas ele guarda a umidade em, e eu seguro lhe daria uma tentativa... I would love to send you melons seeds, or anything else, I will get perennial broccoli soon, I bought enough seed to share with people here, anyway, PM me again and make a list of your interests I will see what I have got...and i would die for portuguese melons and beans and lettuces, I need HOT weather lettuces... Your english does its job, even I, a french guy, understand it very very well, so the the sons and daughters of america should be OK  |
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Post by grungy on May 13, 2008 20:54:40 GMT -5
Vierira,
There is no problem with your English, much better than my Portuguese, and if I have a problem, I shall just dig out the old Portuguese/English dictionary and work from there. We have lots of tomate seeds, and squash seeds if you are interested and more (thanks to all our friends) other types of vegetable seeds. If you can tell me what interests you then I can see what we can send you. By the way, there is a couple of plants I wouldn't mind get some of if you can figure out what I am asking for. One is a squash that is used for the seeds for humans and the flesh is dried and fed to animals and the other is a pepper shrub with mucho heat. Can you suggest what they might be. Fil, my husband's second wife use to talk about them from her childhood.
Cheers,
Val / grungy
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Post by canadamike on May 13, 2008 21:46:13 GMT -5
Hey vieira, looks that there is a fight to be the first to send you stuff Grungy, I saw her before you  And, on another note: Your husband's second wife? Let me think about it a minute...he is your husband...she is wife number two, so you are either number one or number three or number.... Are they many husbands too?... 'cause if some of these wives are young, intelligent, vivacious and drop dead gorgeous, I would like to join the sect...I always wanted more kids and BC is sooo beautiful  |
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Post by grungy on May 13, 2008 22:14:40 GMT -5
Michel:
Actually grunt wife 1 - divorce, wife 2 deceased, wife 3 me who is in for the long haul. Me husband 1 deceased, husband 2 = grunt.
as for the sect - not in this household - only one mistake at a time LOL
however Bountiful is just to the south of us. Remember however you got to turn you entire assets to the colony leader.
You might be first in line, mon ami, but I'm hoping to sneaking in around you. 8>)
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Post by canadamike on May 13, 2008 23:45:27 GMT -5
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Post by flowerpower on May 14, 2008 6:12:45 GMT -5
By the way, there is a couple of plants I wouldn't mind get some of if you can figure out what I am asking for. One is a squash that is used for the seeds for humans and the flesh is dried and fed to animals and the other is a pepper shrub with mucho heat. I like the sound of this squash. So will the pigs.  |
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Post by grungy on May 14, 2008 11:44:45 GMT -5
Vieira,
Just so Michel doesn't confuse you, Grunt is my husband Dan.
Cheers,
Val
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