Cucumber Crossing

[grungy]

Flowerpower,
Just as soon as we can get some seeds, I will make sure you get some.
Cheers,
Val

[vieira]

Hello all :-)
dont know if its only with me but i have a BUG to acess the forum and reply the messages.
i log in and enter the forum, but whem i acess the messages, it automatic logs out!! and doesnt allow me to reply!!

CANADAMIKE:
i do mulch, with grass clippings or "pulverized" pine much, even so i have lots of problems with the watering!
in winter we reach to -5ºC and in summer we got temps at about +35ºC.
i live in a mountain area, so we have a large amplitude of temps!!
its almost summer here and we still have temps about +10ºC

as for mellons and letucces i can get you and more friends some
seeds :-)
lettuces are my mom hobbie :-)
i'll check her for the amount of seeds she still has.

GRUNGY:
the first pumpkin it might be the "abobora porqueira"
we dry or roast the seeds to eat and the flesh we use eyther to feed the animals or to make jam :-)
as for the pepper, i'm also a enthusiasat of pepper growing. i have almost 25 dif varieties, including the Portuguese Piri Piri, don know if its that what you are talking about :-)
i can send you some pics later if you want


as for my interests are mostly:
peppers
cucumbers
tomatos (i hate them to eat but i like to see them grow and share them with everibody :-))
gourds
wattermelon (got only 1 variety and its so sweet... its the sweetest fruit i've eaten. it a hybrid that i got from USDA
unfortunatly its almost seedless, so i have few seeds)

and all thats is unsual and different :-)

i'll grow anything if its brings me pleasure to grow.
as i've said, its not the end that i enjoy, its the way to get it(somethig like that) meaning, i enjoy to see things grow :-)

i'll acept all seeds :-)
my Hmong cuke seeds were bought at US ebay. They cost me almost 5USD with shipping for 10 seeds!!!

all those that want some of my seeds please ask, i'll gladly send some ;.)
Regards
V.

[grunt]

Vieira: Welcome to the forum. I think you will find that you no longer have to buy seeds for very many things. Between the various members here, and some that can be drug in from one or two other forums, I think we can get you almost anything you want.
The pepper may be piri piri. It was growing in the yard by the door when I saw it, about 2/3 M tall. Peppers are a bit less than 1 cm X 6-8 cm. The squash flesh was a deep orange, almost red.
Where in Portugal are you? I have been in the area around Peniche, Atougeia de Balea, and Casais de Maestro Mendo. I have probably mis-spelled some of the names. I even have a couple of tomatoes that I brought seeds from Portugal back to Canada for. Not market tomatoes, but ones grown for farm consumption.
Let us know here on the forum what ever you would like seed for.
Take a look at the seed lists at tinyurl.com/3y7bkn and tinyurl.com/3a4smu. There are albums that show all of the varieties listed at www.picasaweb.google.com/tvgrunt
Feel free to ask for any of the seed on the lists.
Cheers
Dan

[canadamike]

True, and they grow about 1000 different tomatoes and they are generous and give them away all over the world. This year, 2500 packets, all with typed descriptions and everything.... they are there for you too...

And the squash Grungy is talking about looks a lot like LADY GODIVA, from Austria if I am correct, anyway, close to there. They created a small oil industry around it, and the seeds are sold as pumpkin seeds, even here in Canada.

Apparently, the oil is dark green, like the seeds, and very tasty. Why don't you send me some seed, I am growing Lady Godiva this summer, I could compare...is it a maxima?

And most people here, vieira, are as much about the process as the result, the journey is as important as the destination, it is why, if you read many threads, there is so much experimentation.

Very glad to have you here indeed, you fit the profile very well...

[vieira]

he he he!!
definitly the Forum computer Server doenst likes me :-)

bt i've figgered out it.
i have to log in at the home page.
then i go to my profile and go from there to the last post i've posted.
thats the only way it allows me to reply!!! :-)

GRUNT:
2/3m.... thats a tall pepper plant.
didnt you meant 2/3feet?

the portuguese piri piri pods are like you described, but the plant is +- 50cm

as for the squash, its like the "abobora porqueira", translatinh, its the "pigs pumpkin" :-)
its the most commun variety here, and it generaly is to feed the pigs for those ho have them :-)

I'm from Serra da Estrela, the hieste moutain in Portugal.
Peniche is near the ocean, its a nice place to spend some summer days :-) i've been there sometimes!! as for the other villages i dont kow where thei are :-)

are the puicasa pics yours?
thats is a professional work!!
i'll never be like that!! :-)
all those varieties are amazing.

i'll talk to you later on those seeds offerings :-)

I'll prepare some seeds to send you.
let me see those i've got left, but piri piri and the abobora porqueira i have for sure.

CANADAMIKE:
for those how like squash and gourds check this site:

www.kcb-samen.ch/shop/?language=en

i hope there is no problem in posting the link!!
its a shop ins switzerland and i've bought there sometimes.
Michel, the owner is very pleaseat.


I've never ear about a oil extracted from pumkins!!
send me a pic or a link where i can see it!!

i love agriculture!!
unfortunatly my job requires most of my time, and only dedicate my self 100% ate weekends, the rest of the week are my parents that take care of the plants, wattering, mulching....

sometimes i wish i was already retired from work so i could dedicate more time to it, but until then,,, i'll settle with being a weekeng gardener :-) as my wife calls me:-)

this weekend i'll post my seedlist in the seeds semi-forum.
check it out then.
i'll gladly send / exchange some with everibody :-)

forgot to say, i'm in 9B zone!!

have a nice weekend!
regards

[canadamike]

grungy, you can keep your seed then ;D

I have no site to suggest for pumpkin seed oil vieira, it might be on the net, google it...you are right KCSAMEN is great. As for your 9b zone, no need to rub it in to us living in the cold

I might not have your sun, but your snowpile is nothing compared to mine in winter

Can I sell it to you ? ;D


Michel

[vieira]

hehehe!!
by coincidence my city is the place where it snows the most here in Portugal :-)

when i as a kid we had 1m of snow in the winter, but now, if we got 10cm is the most!!
thats is because we dont have water in the summer!!!
by May, all the snow at the hill tops has melted!!!!

in the winter is not the snow that kill us!!!
is the frozen wind!!
we have frosts (cold nights with formation of ice) until about 25 April.
this year a late frost killed almost 80% of my pepper seedlings! and they were in a greenhouse!
my moms tomatos all died, only one survived!

luckally we got a long lasting summer that allow us to extend sowing seasons :-)

i sometimes see pic on the NET with seedlings on a polytunnel covered in snow!
i wonder how is that possible!!!
over here the seedlings all die if they get a little frost!!

regards

[orflo]

The seed oil pumpkins aren't readily available, but search on the web, you might be able to locate the already mentioned Lady Godiva, or the other well-known:Styrian Hulless. And they are both Austrian, there are some other Austrian pumpkins, I will try this year a 'rankenloser ölkurbis', (transl.seed oil pumpkins, bush type; ), but it's unavailable commercially; there are some others but I don't remember their names now.
Pumpkins were originally eaten fot their seeds, these are very nutricious. A selection on flesh eating is infact quite recent, but pumpkins are very easy to select on, so nowadays there are hundreds of selections for edible flesh squash, and the original seed selections did become rare.
I do have some seeds left of Styrian Hulless, but germination is very low (seeds from 2005, apparently they don't keep their viability as long as flesh selected pumpkins), if anyone is interested...
Frank

[canadamike]

Orflo, there is a fair chance you could greatly increase seed germination in old seeds by using GA-3, or type 3 gibberellic acid. I bought 10 grams for 15$ in Montreal, it is 100$ in the states, and was planning to use it but since I also got some SONIC BLOOM, which contains it, it sits in my box of seeds...

I could send you a gram, if you keep it mixed in water in THE DARK it will keep for many years, but if light touches it, say bye bye, it looses its potency. I will post here 2 links on concentrations to use, it is that precise, I would go to my pharmacy to have it weighted in micrograms, and if AMERICANGARDENER could have the kindness to send me some of the super small ziplocks he made me furious with ( the ones his pepper where in) ;D I could prepare aprecise batch for you. a gram should last you years once diluted. I bought 10 because I felt one of these days I would have te opportunity to send it to a friend You see, I taught of you before even knowing you!! It should be worth a bottle of conac in your next seed sample to CANADA ;D ;D ;D

I would dilute the gram in 100 milliliters of water, to be rediluted later according to use ( seed germination, general productivity, production of female flowers , or male etc..) It is organic, an extract of fungus...

JLHudson Seedsman, the american public seed bank ( non-profit) is a great proponent of its use and trial, and rareexoticseeds.com sells it too, but WAY cheaper. Both offer some advice, hudson being more general, while rare.EXOTIC... has an article on dosage for more specific things...it is less approximative.

And since it will be measured to the 1000th of a gram and 100 milliliters is easy to achieve precisely, you would be full equiped to do whatever you feel like with it.

It is amply used to provoque fruit set in tomatoes in hot climates...


www.rarexoticseeds.com/

Michel

P.S. : By the way, your perennial leeks are germinating like crazy...
Fantastic seed germination rate, about 150%, so it must mean my big fingers were not that good at picking only 2 seeds per square soil block. Oh well!!

[grunt]

Vieira:Sorry to take so long to respond, but we are getting really busy here, trying to get the garden ready before the end of the month, so the tomatoes will have a home to go to. And as if I weren't foolish enough already, I'm putting in 330 feet of new beds at the same time (about 100 M). Just having way too much fun.
No rush to send the seeds now. They would arrive too late to be planted this year. Hold on to the seeds for now, and they can be lumped in with what ever we trade with you this fall. Go over the 2006 seed list (the first one), and pick out what you would like from it now, as that list will be mostly removed this fall. Let us know what you would like from the list, and we can either hold the seed to add to what ever you want this fall, or send them to you now if they would be in time for your gardening season. When I said 2/3 M, I was using a common north american idiom/shortcut to indicate two thirds of a meter, or about 60 cm, so it is possibly the same pepper. All I know, is it made my lips feel like they stuck out a long way from the heat. Very good.
I think likely the hoop houses with snow on them had some form of heater going inside them.
Cheers
Dan

[raymondo]

Hi vieira, let me, another new member, add my welcome too. As you've no doubt already noticed, people here are friendly and generous. Glad to have you with us.

Lady Godiva: Amy Goldman, in her book The Compleat Squash, claims that this pumpkin was introduced in 1972 and was developed by Allan K. Stoner of the USDA from a cross between PI 267663 (developed by L. C. Curtis of the Connecticut Agricultural Experiment Station in the 1940s) and Beltsville Accession 102 (commercialized by Agway in 1965).

[canadamike]

Thanks for the correction Ray, that means the ones the buddies of my friend are growing are not L.Godiva then. I know they have a couple, but he sent me LG, telling me they were Austrian seeds. Sorry for the mistake. It would be interesting to know these hulless varieties. If there was a small climbing one, I know a patch of corn which would see a lot of them.

So, anybody knows one? Or want to segregate for small size ;D

Michel