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Post by canadamike on May 14, 2008 0:26:46 GMT -5
I will get these seeds next week or so from THOMAS ETTY ESQ, in England, and have about 4 or 5 lil enveloppes of each to share. I would like the people who get it to grow them and send some seed back to the folks here NINE STAR perennial broccoli is a false perennial which will produce muliple heads starting year to and then every year after if you don't let it go to flower. Life expectancy is around 7 years I have been told. According to the pictures I have seen, it is more a broccoberde than broccoli, and sure would make great hybridising material. I'll bet you the hybridising bug as been catched by more than one in Europe...It can produce up to 15 ''saleable'' heads , if well pruned to branche out the first year. I am not talking out of experience here, I play parrot to my fellow euro-gardeners. For more info, I would recommend to ask Orflo, the guy grows everything I am even becoming weary of him, one of these days I will seed a packet from him and grow mother in laws ;D The second one is the BLACK SPANISH CARROT , a dark purple one with white interior speckled with purple. Some of these are surely going to my new friend vieira, I have to beat grungy for the favors of our first portuguese member ( to you grungy, try to beat this one ;D) I don't think any of us has ever grown it, did not even see it listed at SSE, although it must be in the ''bank'', or it will soon be. I will also get some other weird stuff that only orflo is probably knowing and eating, he is a vegetarian ( may god bless his soul, one second...got to go get more ham...will be back soon... ). My only worry is that it was eaten in England...by british people...anyway, my friend Luc is a goat , he eats anything as long as it is drenched in fat . So I am waiting for pm's from anybody but orflo, who probably has it all
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Post by flowerpower on May 14, 2008 6:01:07 GMT -5
So this perennial broccoli is "Brocco-flower" ? The carrots sound really interesting. This yr I have Yellowstone and Purple Haze as non-orange carrots. But the Purple is a hybrid.
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Post by grungy on May 14, 2008 7:25:42 GMT -5
I have seen this Michel, Now where did I put those mother-in-law seed? I mean the special ones - with pms and migraine headaches as dominant traits? 8>)
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Post by canadamike on May 14, 2008 8:52:22 GMT -5
I sure hope you have seen it ;D As for your special seeds, I would rather frustrate your legendary generosity for this one... keep your troubles for yourself, or if you need more, I'll seel you my car Your friend Michel
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Post by bunkie on May 14, 2008 9:04:02 GMT -5
canadamike, the carrot sounds wonderful! never heard of it.
about the perennial broccoli, if you let it go to seed to save seed, will it still produce heads the next year?
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Post by grungy on May 14, 2008 9:07:11 GMT -5
Keep us in mind, Michel - I'll find room somewhere - vertical is the next way to go. 8>)
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Post by canadamike on May 14, 2008 11:05:32 GMT -5
Bunkie, you are in, PM me your coordinates, along with your -mail. Ijust went through a site crash experience elsewhere, and would like to join you if need be should the same happen here.
grungy, of course you to, and flower.
Please all send me complete coordinates, including phones, so I can reach you , just in case...
Tomodori was arbitrarily shut down yesterday, the ''free housing'' company decided to do so unless 200$ or so were given NOW for a month. I'll save everything in my hotmail files ...instead of here.
Flower, the broccoli will die if going to seeds, that is why I described it as a false perennial. But as long as you want to harvest everything, it behaves like one.
Apparently some elephant garlic can do the same, I will try it, only cuting the above ground part, after all this is what we do to its ancester, the wild leek.
Patrice, the ''orflo from Quebec'' who owns a small seed company and will join us after his rush, has been doing it in a harsh and windy climate, zone 3/4 for 3 years...interesting...
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Post by orflo on May 14, 2008 11:35:34 GMT -5
OK,OK, I got the hint ...I'm indeed growing this nine star perennial, which is great (I could have send you seeds), two weeks ago I harvested a 'broccoli' , its weight was just over three pounds, yes, from one plant , and lots of side shoots are still coming, sometimes producing until july or later. But I have no idea about the lowest temperatures they can stand, over here they go down to at least -13 degrees celsius, but a lot of you guys have colder temperatures during wintertime. It's quite easy to grow, it takes a season to establish, and from then on you will be harvesting big tasty white broccoli heads for at least 5 years, production goes down a little bit after 6 years, probably it needs replacing, but I just take small side shoots, they root easily and I place them in an other spot. Don't let them flower though, they will put all their energy in flowering and eventually seed growing and will die.Or that's maybe just the thing you want to do... There are some other perennial kales and broccoli, all can be grown from shoots: pentland bring, ehwiger kohl ( doesn't stand really low temperatures, so should be covered up), chou daubenton (several varieties), and others, but these are the most widespread over here (though they still are rare). I think they are a wonderful addition to a perennial and permaculture garden, , and all of them give a very nice harvest. Frank
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Post by orflo on May 14, 2008 12:13:26 GMT -5
Here are some pictures: the one in the second picture was about 30 cms. wide, that's just about 12 inches, Frank
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Post by canadamike on May 14, 2008 12:52:41 GMT -5
Why the hell do they call that cauliflower a broccoli? A cat is a cat in France too!!
Well, they burn their saints down there... Joan of Arc did not became a celebrity only because she was a warrior, but also because she was inflammable... we try to be cool with our heroes!!
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2008 13:09:53 GMT -5
Two more great introductions. I look forward to them both. Particularly the carrot, an area where I am currently searching for more diversity. Keep me updated mike!
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Post by canadamike on May 14, 2008 20:00:30 GMT -5
Frank (orflo) I unintentionally lied when it came to the amount of Nine Star cabbage available, I will have a few samples to give of most everything I ordered, but I bought one ounce of Nine Star, to make sure I had plenty for the folks here. Yhat is why I did not ask for it when you offered.
Alan, as usual everything of interest I get goes your way, it should be like that for everybody here, anyway, you already know...
Frank, can you explain me how to import the picure here instead of the link?
Just got equiped with a cam and a chip today and downloaded some in photo bucket, I am ready to roll!!
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Post by flowerpower on May 14, 2008 21:17:09 GMT -5
Doesn't Broccoflower look like a green Cauliflower? Do you need to cover the heads on this new one?
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Post by canadamike on May 14, 2008 22:07:37 GMT -5
I said broccoflower because the picture I saw showed some tint, albeit faint. We are much better relying on orflo comments, it could be the picture itself that was imperfect...
Michel
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Post by orflo on May 14, 2008 22:51:55 GMT -5
No need to cover the heads, at least not over here. Michel: how to post a picture: I think it's explained on Tomodori, it's the method Lionel and Laurent explained to me that I'm still using, Frank
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