|
|
Post by flowerpower on Jun 16, 2008 5:35:23 GMT -5
Want me to bring ya some bees on my next trip to NY?  If I didn't know it would attract bears, I'd have you bring them. lol Seems to also be a total lack of dragon and damselflies. I haven't seen any. Martin is totally right- people will believe anything they see online without question. The sad part is that there are alot of inexperienced people in this forum. So naturally I am being a pain in this person's ass right now. |
|
|
|
Post by sandbar on Jun 17, 2008 11:16:19 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by flowerpower on Jun 17, 2008 22:40:14 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by canadamike on Jun 20, 2008 23:50:43 GMT -5
Hey girls, can any kind of vibrating machine work on them? ;D ;D ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by flowerpower on Jun 21, 2008 5:27:18 GMT -5
"Flowerpower, pollination is done inside the tomato flowers. There is no cross pollination. Pollen are released onto the sticky surface of the stigma in the same flower. To cross pollination of tomato, you have to cut the flower open, which is a quite complicated procedure done by breeders. There is no need to rinse the brush. Actually, you do not need the brush head. It is the viberation that takes the action. "
Maybe I would take their answers seriously if they could spell "vibration" correctly just once. lol. So anyone slicing open the flowers for breeding purposes?
|
|
|
|
Post by sandbar on Jun 21, 2008 10:12:29 GMT -5
Aren't potato leaved tomato varieties prone to cross pollination due to exerted stigmas?
|
|
|
|
Post by blanesgarden on Jun 21, 2008 11:21:00 GMT -5
Gardenmama, Supertalk Radio....said to hit the stakes or cages with a stick couple times a day.
Some of the old timers used this method.
But as for what time of the day, she didnt say.....Sandbar, ya got any Maters yet? ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by blanesgarden on Jun 21, 2008 21:48:38 GMT -5
Tom Akers.....Shades of Idig? What are you referring to there?  |
|
|
|
Post by sandbar on Jun 21, 2008 23:41:13 GMT -5
Sandbar, ya got any Maters yet? ;D Nah ... have some tiny green ones on a few of the early varieties, but really gonna be at least another month ...  We had really crummy weather in May ... temps wouldn't get above 50 at night ... kept going down to 40-42F at night ... too cold for maters. Then, we had a late frost (two weeks after last frost date of May 15th).  So, I didn't start setting my pepper and mater plants until June 1. Took me about 10 days to get 500 plants set ... am glad that's done ...  Now, if I'd had my greenhouse up, I'd be singing a different song, but cash flow is an issue this summer, so not sure whether it will make it up, or not. If not, I'm going to look at using row covers next year (over part of my crop) to get a jump on things. |
|
|
|
Post by MawkHawk on Jun 23, 2008 8:49:37 GMT -5
In my little greenhouse I just shake the plants once or twice / day and they pollinate just fine like that. I dunno what those dummies are talking about with the bee frequencies, etc.
|
|
|
|
Post by paquebot on Jun 23, 2008 21:23:38 GMT -5
I dunno what those dummies are talking about with the bee frequencies, etc. They don't know, either. It sounds good except for one little matter that they overlooked. Tomatoes, as we know them, did not come from Central or South America but rather Europe. They had about 300 years of development on a continent void of what would be natural tomato pollinators. The primary bee pollinator in Europe would have been the honeybee which doesn't want anything to do with a tomato blossom. I thought about registering and attempting to present the facts but it isn't worth it. Martin |
|
|
|
Post by PapaVic on Jun 23, 2008 21:49:07 GMT -5
My new hobby over the past three years has been crossing tomatoes. And I've read all kinds of information about obtaining pollen from one flower's anthers and transferring it to another flower's stigma. I've tried several methods.
Funny thing is, when I try the hardest, I seem to have the least success. Then when wiping the sweat off my face I catch a glimsp of something yellow, look down at the back of my hands or the side of my sweaty forearm ... and there's a huge swath of pollen smeared across my skin from God knows where. Just appears as if simply accidentally brushing against a flower cluster is enough to release huge quantities when I've been studiously shaking, vibrating, thumping, whatever all to no avail.
Bunch of crap, I'll tell you ... all that stuff you read online!
pv
|
|
|
|
Post by flowerpower on Jun 24, 2008 5:12:10 GMT -5
Well, this woman stopped responding when I mentioned scientific studies etc.. lol Sorry, Wikipedia is not the Encyclopedia to me. I did ask Tom Wagner if he used this vibration method in his breeding projects. He doesn't.
|
|
|
|
Post by grunt on Jun 27, 2008 3:48:35 GMT -5
Re sandbars second link: www.gpnmag.com/Want-To-Grow-Greenhouse-Tomatoes--article2796This Pollination should be done every other day or three times per week. Pollinating less often risks reducing fruit set. Pollinating more often is very likely a waste of time. The best time of day for pollinating is when relative humidity is between 60-70 percent. Since this is difficult to control, find when the relative humidity is at its daily low point. If the amount of moisture in the air stays constant, the relative humidity decreases as the temperature increases. This is because warm air can hold more moisture than cool air. The warmest time of day is usually mid-day. This is why the best time to pollinate is generally between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. is what Organic Gardening stated some time in the late 60's or early 70's, and they were referring to garden not greenhouse tomatoes, as I recall it. Cheers Dan |
|
|
|
Post by PapaVic on Jun 27, 2008 10:14:26 GMT -5
So anyone slicing open the flowers for breeding purposes? Flower, Yes, there are several of us hobby breeders who intentionally emasculate tomato flowers of one variety for the purpose of receiving hand pollination from another variety. Previously I used tweezers to remove the male parts of the flower that was to receive the pollen. This year, I've found it easier to "slice" the flowers with my thumbnails. pv |
|
I found this one too. The research is old. lol Still its for greenhouse growers. Though it was the type of info I was looking for. 
So, I didn't start setting my pepper and mater plants until June 1. Took me about 10 days to get 500 plants set ... am glad that's done ... 
