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Post by stratcat on Jan 4, 2009 0:03:02 GMT -5
Welcome to Homegrown Goodness, Tim. Glad to see you made it.  john |
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Post by cff on Jan 4, 2009 0:23:25 GMT -5
Hello Tim and welcome to Homegrown" Michel tells me great things about your work with grains "who could turn down such a great opportunity" to work with someone so dedicate - You have a PM please count me in. Hi Bunkie, it was interesting to see your photos... I am somewhat surprised to see you got any harvest as these grains are bred to be late summer early fall sown for July Aug. harvest (dry in field). Perhaprs you have plenty of cool nights during early summer. ...What was the name on the per wheat packet? ...I hope to work more with you on all these per. grains. ... Root binding in cell trays or pots is no problem for per. grains, just trim back the tops if they are top heavy and you are transplanting in dry weather. ... if you have an exceptional plant, you can easily multiply it hundreds/thousands of times a year by intelligent breaking of the clump on a regular basis... I have 6 new per rye grain selections to share ...they offer a better per. endurance due to stronger foliage disease resistances and a stronger wild per montanum parentage. Each is distinct. 2 sels have strong winter growth and are excellent for bird or animal forage as well as grain. ...I have an offer for any of you reading this. A per grain breeding, trialing, production group/forum. Perennial Grain Pioneers $25 support fee (july thru july) entitles you to breeding samples of the above improved per. ryes now, and supporters will recieve (in response to the date of their support and continuance) priority to recieve any new PER. GRAIN SELECTION. There should be some wheat, triticale, grain sorghum, cane sorghum material to share with you this fall if all goes reasonibly well. email me if you are interested ...I know that a few of you are. ... (I have not heard back from Alan or Michel so there may be changes for those who respond after I do hear from them) Tim Peters |
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Post by johno on Jan 4, 2009 7:58:20 GMT -5
Good to see you here, Tim! Thank you for your offer.
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Post by PatrickW on Jan 4, 2009 8:23:33 GMT -5
Tim, it's great to see you here on HG. Please count me in. I'll send you a PM.
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 4, 2009 10:50:49 GMT -5
Welcome! I will be (and have been) reading about your projects with great interest. I would love to participate but my youngest has celiac so it's wheat and rye are out for us though I do have interest in sorghum.
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Post by bunkie on Jan 4, 2009 11:18:10 GMT -5
Hi Bunkie, it was interesting to see your photos... I am somewhat surprised to see you got any harvest as these grains are bred to be late summer early fall sown for July Aug. harvest (dry in field). Perhaprs you have plenty of cool nights during early summer. ...What was the name on the per wheat packet? ...I hope to work more with you on all these per. grains. ... Root binding in cell trays or pots is no problem for per. grains, just trim back the tops if they are top heavy and you are transplanting in dry weather. ... if you have an exceptional plant, you can easily multiply it hundreds/thousands of times a year by intelligent breaking of the clump on a regular basis... I have 6 new per rye grain selections to share ...they offer a better per. endurance due to stronger foliage disease resistances and a stronger wild per montanum parentage. Each is distinct. 2 sels have strong winter growth and are excellent for bird or animal forage as well as grain. ...I have an offer for any of you reading this. A per grain breeding, trialing, production group/forum. Perennial Grain Pioneers $25 support fee (july thru july) entitles you to breeding samples of the above improved per. ryes now, and supporters will recieve (in response to the date of their support and continuance) priority to recieve any new PER. GRAIN SELECTION. There should be some wheat, triticale, grain sorghum, cane sorghum material to share with you this fall if all goes reasonibly well. email me if you are interested ...I know that a few of you are. ... (I have not heard back from Alan or Michel so there may be changes for those who respond after I do hear from them) Tim Peters count me in on your project too tim! i'll email you a bit later. the perennial wheat i planted was 'Ezeer Thresh' from Peters Seed Research. i was very pleased with it's production. we're at 2750' altitude, wide open here, but in the mountains. we usually have everything in the ground/gardens by late April/mid May, but last year was freakish. temps in the 30Fs, heavy snow in June, quite a switch from normal. i have acquired a lot of reemay cloth this year to protect everything if we get the same weather. we used to get a hard, killing frost (moved here in 89) the first week of September, but it has moved to late October and this year late November. not sure what to make of it all. but, the perennial wheat and rye (Mountaineer) stayed bright green till we got snow in December. they stood up during ALL the hard frosts. really beautiful. the wheat produced before the rye and i harvested it as the head became yellow/dry, probably in September...it was late. the rye didn't produce anything...a few heads but no seeds in them...thus, i'll be very anxious to try your new varieties...tho...maybe this second year the rye will do better. got to wait and see. i don't understand what you mean by "these grains are bred to be late summer early fall sown for July Aug. harvest (dry in field)". like winter wheat? thanks for the info on clumping and root binding. i was very impressed with the plants struggling in the cells and shining in the ground. have you done anything with rice???! |
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Post by bunkie on Jan 4, 2009 11:31:08 GMT -5
Welcome! I will be (and have been) reading about your projects with great interest. I would love to participate but my youngest has celiac so it's wheat and rye are out for us though I do have interest in sorghum. ottawagardener, i have some Black Amber Sorghum seed if you would like. i posted a pics of them a bit back. |
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Post by bunkie on Jan 4, 2009 16:59:37 GMT -5
stratcat1, you're seeds arrived today! thank you so much!!!
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Post by grungy on Jan 7, 2009 2:01:51 GMT -5
Count us in too.
Cheers,
Val (grungy) and Dan (grunt)
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Post by atimberline on Jan 7, 2009 23:21:41 GMT -5
'count me in on your project too tim! i'll email you a bit later.'
ok Bunkie, good to have you (and each one of the rest of you responders) expressing willingness to be involved...
'the perennial wheat i planted was 'Ezeer Thresh' from Peters Seed Research. i was very pleased with it's production. we're at 2750' altitude, wide open here, but in the mountains. we usually have everything in the ground/gardens by late April/mid May, but last year was freakish. temps in the 30Fs, heavy snow in June, quite a switch from normal. i have acquired a lot of reemay cloth this year to protect everything if we get the same weather.'
'we used to get a hard, killing frost (moved here in 89) the first week of September, but it has moved to late October and this year late November. not sure what to make of it all. but, the perennial wheat and rye (Mountaineer) stayed bright green till we got snow in December. they stood up during ALL the hard frosts. really beautiful.'
'the wheat produced before the rye and i harvested it as the head became yellow/dry, probably in September...it was late. the rye didn't produce anything...a few heads but no seeds in them...thus, i'll be very anxious to try your new varieties...tho...maybe this second year the rye will do better. got to wait and see.'
ok... my deduction was correct, you have plenty of cool nights in spring-early summer.
The rye made no seed because they are not self-pollenating as are the wheat. they should make a good harvest next july-early aug.
'i don't understand what you mean by "these grains are bred to be late summer early fall sown for July Aug. harvest (dry in field)". like winter wheat?'
yes.
'thanks for the info on clumping and root binding. i was very impressed with the plants struggling in the cells and shining in the ground.'
'have you done anything with rice???!'
rice, yes, some. It needs warm nights to grow well. ...you can start the seed early in containers of warm water/nutrient solution, once germinated it can be grown easily in most any good moist potting/garden soil. Start 1-2 months ahead of your frostfree date and you should easily have a harvest of the early sorts. Space 12"-18"on the sq.
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Post by atimberline on Jan 7, 2009 23:35:47 GMT -5
'Welcome! I will be (and have been) reading about your projects with great interest. I would love to participate but my youngest has celiac so it's wheat and rye are out for us though I do have interest in sorghum.'
Thanks o.g.
...some suffering from celiac are not troubled with ryes... I will keep you in mind for per. millets and sorghum although your winters preclude immediate participation... they just get to killout cold for what is here and now. ... Give us maybe 3-4 more years, some of the material is root-hardy into southern ontario. ...sorry o.g.
Tim Peters
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Post by orflo on Jan 10, 2009 2:10:47 GMT -5
Bunkie!!! Wow, so much seeds arrived yesterday, thank you very much. I'm holding everything I was going to send , a few packets I have send before Christmas got lost, and I'm still figuring out what hapened there.....But it will come sooner or (just a bit) later
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Post by bunkie on Jan 10, 2009 10:51:48 GMT -5
Bunkie!!! Wow, so much seeds arrived yesterday, thank you very much. I'm holding everything I was going to send , a few packets I have send before Christmas got lost, and I'm still figuring out what hapened there.....But it will come sooner or (just a bit) later yay orflo! glad they arrived. i ended up with much more than i thought, of the seed, so i was able to give everyone a generous amount. was very pleased and surprized with the amount of harvest! don't forget i have not checked germination of these. we still have 4 plus feet of snow here, so no hurry, yet! |
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Post by Alan on Jan 11, 2009 19:05:11 GMT -5
I am looking forward to growing this material greatly Tim, there are tons of possibilities for development and implementation here and I will be glad to be a piece of it.
Have you done much work with oats?
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Post by atimberline on Jan 13, 2009 10:22:19 GMT -5
I have done some work with oats. They are very challenging, very difficult to work with as far as hybridizing ...I have found there are plenty of wild relatives that have strong perenniality but the secret of crossing them to the cultivated is going to take an investment I can't now give. ...Stan Cox of The Land Institute has done some oat breeding in the past... there are not many oat breeders and noe are working on per material at this time
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