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Post by plantsnobin on Aug 25, 2008 7:44:10 GMT -5
Alan, or anyone else close to my area, I have tons of apples falling everyday. I think these would be good to try making vinegar for weed killing. I did use plain old store bought vinegar for spraying, and it did work ok on dandelions and bindweed, but not on grasses. I am hoping that a stronger concentration will work better for those tough grasses. The weeds have really gotten me down this year. I hope to get a better handle on it earlier next year. But then, we always think next year will be better, don't we? Anyway, if anyone wants apples, come and get them.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Aug 25, 2008 8:57:40 GMT -5
Karen, Regular vinegar isn't strong enough for what you are attempting to do. Commercial grade vinegars that are sold as herbicides are about 5 times stronger than the stuff that is sold for table use.
Actually, I'll check today and see exactly what the concentration is. I think we have some on the shelf at the store. I'll let you know tonight.
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Post by plantsnobin on Aug 25, 2008 10:04:19 GMT -5
Glad to see you back as a member. The stuff we can buy here is generally for pickling, and is 5%. I have never made cider myself, but I have been reading up on it. I have plenty of apples to experiment with, so I will give it a go. I went through I don't know how many gallons of vinegar, and was happy with the results up to a point. It actually seems like Roundup would probably be cheaper. We all want to do the right thing for the environment, but I wonder what I may be doing to soil organisms with the vinegar. Seems there is always that pesky law of unintended consequences.
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Post by canadamike on Aug 25, 2008 15:55:22 GMT -5
The herbicide vinegar sold in garden centres around here for 15$ a LITER is simply 7.15%. So, 0.15% just to convince people it is different.
Ah! The cost of complex chemical engineering
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Aug 25, 2008 18:06:20 GMT -5
Michel,
EcoSense by Scott's as well as EcoClear from B.C. are both 20% acetic acid.
Karen, I'm sure there must be a source for commercial grade vinegar based herbicide in the U.S.? Or mebbe not??
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2008 19:55:13 GMT -5
distill some...........
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Aug 25, 2008 20:36:06 GMT -5
Distill...Aren't Stills illegal in most states now, well except for Stephen Stills and Crosby Stills Nash & Young....
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2008 21:26:14 GMT -5
yes it is illegal. so are fireworks.....
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Post by hoosierheightsfarm on Aug 26, 2008 0:00:18 GMT -5
Don't you distill other stuff? Like Bio-diesel?
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Post by Alan on Aug 28, 2008 20:35:10 GMT -5
Definetly interested Karen, just got to get back over your way sometime soon! I still need to bring you your chicken cage back as well and I owe you beans. Man, I sound like a bum don't I. Anyhow, I may be over your way next week! Will definetly be in town in September with regular deliveries to the co-op and the speaking engagement on the 19'th.
-Alan
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