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Post by tuttamatta on Sept 9, 2008 22:22:51 GMT -5
Thank you for the kind words Alan, you're making feel welcome, what a nice group!!!!!!!!!!
I've already promised Mike some Marengo (yellow) romano and Super Marconi romano, both pole beans, I don't have a great big garden but I could try to save some for you too if you like; I would love to have some fava beans for winter planting.
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Post by grungy on Sept 9, 2008 22:27:14 GMT -5
Paola,
It really doesn't matter to me which of us is the first recipent of your seed. The tomato offer is still wide open, and I will eventually get some of your seed from Mike, whether its the original seed you sent him, or some from his first harvest.
Cheers,
val/grungy
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Post by tuttamatta on Sept 9, 2008 22:34:08 GMT -5
Ciao giardinere Davide,
e come sta lei?
Actually now-a-days is more common to use the familiar form, so:
Come stai Davide?
What kind of italian veggies did you grow?
I really like to grow radicchio from around my area, I always have Villafranca, Chioggia, Treviso and, of course Verona palla rossa.
Arrivederci
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Post by canadamike on Sept 9, 2008 23:20:25 GMT -5
I don't care who gets it first, Tuttamatta. But I have fava beans for you. Send the seeds to me then, both please, I'll send them to Grungy with the rest...you see, we are all friends, and there is that feeling that we all are part of the same ''genebank''. I like to think Grungy and Grunt ( the other half, the far more important half since he can piss further standing up ;D ) and Alan and...and...consider my seeds as their own, in a safe placed somewhere else for them. I now there is reciprocity here too. It's great, we are all the richer for it. Beans will go your way do not worry. Do you plan to plant the fava soon for the winter? The ones I will be sending you are ''PETITES GOURGANES DU LAC ST-JEAN'' ( SMALL FAVAS OF LAC ST-JEAN), they are the ones growing at the northern gardening limit of Eastern North America, there are no gardens further up north, so they are really cold tolerant. I only had them dried in soups, but this year I grew a couple, they will come back next year, they are great when green and small, better tasting than flageolets (flagioletto I think). I also have a cultivar of climbing very small sweet peas, ROI DES CONSERVES (''KING OF THE CANS'' once translated, what a lame name  ) I tasted the first ones today and they are paradise, they can even be eaten as snow peas, to my great surprise, they are a double duty crop. As far as I know, even SSE doesn't have a climbing ''petit pois'' a very very small pea cultivar. They have a dry count of over 150 pea per ounce, and the plants are very prolific. Since it is a fall crop, I don't know if they will mature in a timely manner, but I have some seeds in reserve... |
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Post by tuttamatta on Sept 10, 2008 0:47:58 GMT -5
Hi Mike,
this sounds too good to be true.....!!!!!
I am overwhelmed by the responses, I think I found trading heaven....
considering that I got chastised on another forum for responding to somebody's request but I was not in the trading forum.....I think that I just like to deal with you guys & gals from now on and forget the other ones.......
I really would like all you mentioned, Mike, so, should I send you a PM with my address and you can send me yours so as soon as my beans seeds are ready i can send them to you?
Let me know, I guess I'm still unsure how this works, after all, I'm new to this, not necessarily young......just new.....lol.........
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Post by tuttamatta on Sept 10, 2008 0:50:42 GMT -5
Mike,
I forgot to mention that, yes, I'm planning to do fava beans for winter crop and your peas sound good too.
Thank you again.
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Post by canadamike on Sept 10, 2008 1:39:22 GMT -5
Just pm me your coordinates and it's a go...
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Post by canadamike on Sept 10, 2008 1:40:21 GMT -5
by the way, you have a pm ;D
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Post by plantsnobin on Sept 10, 2008 9:10:58 GMT -5
I would like to say welcome, from Paoli Indiana. I think you will find the regulars here a friendly bunch of people, and always willing to share knowledge and seeds. I myself am a bit of an imposter here, for I am more into ornamentals than vegetables, but they tolerate me anyway. Hope you enjoy your time here. Karen
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Post by Alan on Sept 13, 2008 23:16:10 GMT -5
Hey tuttamatta,
If you don't have many extra seed to share of the beans this year, instead of sending any to me go ahead and send what you would have sent to me to Grungy and Val who do all kinds of terrific work with crops. I can always grow it in 2010 and will still be glad to share with you some of my seeds for this year for free!
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Post by canadamike on Sept 14, 2008 3:01:33 GMT -5
Robin, you've got to grow HARICOT À COSSES VIOLETTES ( VIOLET PODDED BEANS).I got them from Frank/Orflo. Forget the good taste, you are into ornementals and these beans are one of the most georgious-est vine I have ever seen. The beans are the most intense iridescent purple , almost black but nevertheles shiny, like if they were black lacquered in violet. The stems are purple and the leaves are a rich very dark green with purple veins and an etheral purple glow. It almost looks unreal . I grew them in a patch of corn that was destroyed by racoons, they are now kind of floating 2 feet above ground, anchored on stems leftovers, looking like a ground cover suspended in the air  , but the display of color is pure poetry. This has become the spot where I have to go everyday. I need my fix of admiring them. Forget they are beans, they are simply magnificent decorative vines. OH! I forgot to tell you the flowers are a mix of white and violet/purple. |
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 14, 2008 6:46:36 GMT -5
Are you gonna be able to save seed from them? I grew Royalty Purple Pod (hybrid) this yr. They did really well and the beans were good. But you know I hate bush beans. lol |
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Post by canadamike on Sept 14, 2008 8:54:55 GMT -5
I sure hope so. Some are close to hit the beginning of the drying stage. Tha'ts the plan. I tought I was alone in this pole bean thing Apparently a lot of us are tired to bend over. I have about 200 feet of bean rows all in all. My son knows by the way I am walking that I picked beans:'' You're like me dad, you don't like to get on your knees, but I am 18!'' ;D This year, I had an idea. I used a plymood chair, the kind they use in community halls. The fun thing was that because of all that rain, I would sit on it an the chair would get ''in'' the soil fast, like if I was taking an elevator down. I would end up sitting 6 inches above ground. It was OK for a while. But even siting like that, you are still bending over all the time. It's ok for your ass but does nothing for your back once the plants, which keep growing, are over 3 feet long... |
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Post by americangardener on Sept 14, 2008 11:24:24 GMT -5
This year, I had an idea. I used a plymood chair, the kind they use in community halls. The fun thing was that because of all that rain, I would sit on it an the chair would get ''in'' the soil fast, like if I was taking an elevator down. I would end up sitting 6 inches above ground. It was OK for a while. But even siting like that, you are still bending over all the time. It's ok for your ass but does nothing for your back once the plants, which keep growing, are over 3 feet long... Now that's funny Michel.. the funny thing is i did the same thing last year. I had me one of those plastic deck chairs... and i put it out in the garden so i could have a spot to sit when i wanted to take a break. Darn thing would keep slowly sinking into the ground on me. I'd get up.. pull the legs outta the ground and do it all over again. Then i finally found some old milk can out in the garden... musta been left by some pioneers or something. But, it was almost the perfect height so i could put it underneath the chair seat and it would keep me up outta the ground. Then the bad thing was when i went back to the garden this spring i saw that some kids had smashed it to smitherens.. Oh well i'll set another one up next year.. I still got the milk can. Paola... i see you found my favorite hiding spot. I come here every day.. not like over at Tville where i might log in two or three times a month. I just like everyone here better. I don't post much right now.. but i still read every post every day. I'm glad ya got the tomato seeds... not much i can tell ya bout most of em. You could assume they'll all be determinates, and all be early season. I grew most of em out last year.. and from those the polar circle one was the earliest. The Novikovs Giant i know nothing bout.. i was gonna grow it out this year.. but the weather had different plans. Dan or someone else can tell ya bout that one if ya still need info. I can see ya like beans too.. so this is probably gonna be a fun trading year. I got a few varieties of those.. and it won't be long before i'll be harvesting all my pole varieties seed. FP.. ya ought ta try the Royal Burgandy instead of the Royalty Purple pod.. it's OP and one of my favorites. That is if ya still want bush beans. If ya want some purple pole types.. i got a few i can send ya this winter. Well.. talk ta ya all later.. back into lurking mode for me... Dave |
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Post by tuttamatta on Sept 15, 2008 17:47:06 GMT -5
Yes, Dave, I found your favorite hiding spot and I have to agree with you 150%.....I like all the people here so much better too!!!!
Very friendly and helpful and I am very grateful to have found them.
As far as the tomatoes, thank you again, and since I started recently growing heirlooms and OP I found my supply of tomatoes seeds very slim since most of them turned out to be hybrids, so now I found just the right people to help me improve my selection : you and Grungy that made a very generous offer; I really love trading, and you were right about the other site that you said you did not like, no names here but I'm not referring to Tville, I made a couple of bad trades plus found most of them to be unresponsive and stuffy.
This is the right one for me.
I will ask around (you said Dan? goes by what name?) and see if I find more info.
Paola
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) I tasted the first ones today and they are paradise, they can even be eaten as snow peas, to my great surprise, they are a double duty crop. As far as I know, even SSE doesn't have a climbing ''petit pois'' a very very small pea cultivar. They have a dry count of over 150 pea per ounce, and the plants are very prolific. Since it is a fall crop, I don't know if they will mature in a timely manner, but I have some seeds in reserve...
, but the display of color is pure poetry. This has become the spot where I have to go everyday. 