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Post by tuttamatta on Sept 19, 2008 1:57:40 GMT -5
Hi Alan,
I know this is far down the road, but what is the update on this plant?
I would like to have some cuttings too if they are available and any more info if available?
Thank you
Paola
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Post by Jim on Mar 19, 2009 16:11:18 GMT -5
Any updates on this one Alan???
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Post by ceara on Mar 19, 2009 17:52:47 GMT -5
Wow - Salvia divinorum are two words I never thought I would see together on this forum.  Oh man I wish you were in Canada. lol I ordered a live plant last fall from a commercial greenhouse and it just died a few weeks ago, couldn't hack the cold temps in the house, and it stem-rotted. I hope to be able to get a cutting from somewhere in Canada this spring. That should be easier, because when ordering such a sensitive plant from a commercial greenhouse where it lives all cozy and comfy, then move it to a home environment which can be a total shocker to salvia...I figure a home-grown plant will be more tolerant than something that came from a greenhouse. |
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Post by castanea on Mar 21, 2009 10:21:03 GMT -5
I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but you should know that Diviner's Sage is a highly dangerous hallucinogen, and is banned from many herbal pharmacopoeias. In some countries it is a criminal offense to possess Salvia divinorum. It is a common misconception that Diviner's Sage is similar to reefer, or marihuana. This is a poor comparison: Diviner's sage is much more powerful "stuff"; it could be considered the downer equivalent of heroin. Users of diviner's sage can experience "bad trips" followed by illness and depression which can last for days. It is thought to be addictive, although not as much as some other drugs are. In Delaware there is a new statute, known as "Brett's Law", which bans all Salvia divinorum from being sold or grown in the state. Brett Chidester was "done in" by a combination of alcohol and salvia at the age of 17 (he reportedly experienced depression and physical illness, and ultimately committed suicide). It is said that Brett was overheard talking to his fiancee about "magic mint", a slang name for Salvia divinorum, shortly before his death. His mother had also found some S.D. in the house, several months prior, and he confessed he had smoked some. There is no recognized medical use for Diviner's Sage, and frankly no reason to grow it. Don't walk away from Salvia divinorum; RUN from Salvia divinorum. It's just "sage" advice, so to speak. That growing a plant may be a crime says nothing about the value of the plant. It says more about the culture. Growing plants should never be a crime. Some strains of salvia can exhibit very strong hallucinogenic properties if ingested. So don't ingest them. They are still not as strong as MG seeds. |
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Post by castanea on Mar 21, 2009 10:27:32 GMT -5
I grew 4 or 5 different strains of salvia for about 3 years. I grew them outdoors in 105+ degree heat during the summer and the first winter kept them indoors. When outside I made sure they had afternoon shade but otherwise did nothing to coddle them. I was trying to get them to flower but they never did. The second winter I left them outside and all froze back, but 3 of them recovered and had new growth. The third winter all died except one. I think that one is dead now. They are very tough little plants but mine would not flower. One of them seemed to be starting to develop flower buds late the third year but they froze back.
By the way, I had no interest in ingesting them. I just think they're a fascinating little plant.
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Post by Alan on Mar 23, 2009 19:35:21 GMT -5
Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread, I kept missing it for some reason.
Anyhow, for those who are interested, the salvia grew like mad in pots last summer, huge amounts of leaves were harvested and the plants continued to grow back. I grew seven distinct cultivars hoping for flowering and even hitting with extra nutrients to induce flowering but had no such luck.
Come fall the plants were moved inside where within a month all but two distinct cultivars died back and apparently are now deceased, however two small cuttings struggled on and are growing well now at nearly 10 inches tall and starting to branch out a bit. Cuttings will be made of these plants a bit later in their cycle and I will try to continue cloning and "cowbirding" these beauties out to friends and family for future propigation, perhaps this fall I can ship some cuttings for indoor growing.
I have yet to ingest any of the active ingredient myself, however friends who are close to me and into the spirituality of such a plant report positive experiences in a self healing setting.
I will keep everyone updated.
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Post by castanea on Mar 23, 2009 20:06:33 GMT -5
.... I grew seven distinct cultivars hoping for flowering and even hitting with extra nutrients to induce flowering but had no such luck. .... Same here. I tried every flowering trick I could find but nothing worked. |
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Post by jason on Apr 13, 2009 14:46:55 GMT -5
Alan,
Which two survived?
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