Non-Hybrid, Ecologically Grown Seed For Sale

[winter unfazed]

The Genesis One Seed Collection
SEED FOR SALE----------LIST-----------2008

Brassicaceae (syn. Cruciferae)--The Mustard Family[/b]

TURNIP (Brassica rapa)
Purple Top White Globe

Compositae (syn. Asteraceae)--The Composite Family[/b]

MILK THISTLE (Silybum marianum)
Species silybum

Cucurbitaceae--The Cucurbit Family[/b]

CUCUMBER (Cucumis sativus):
Chicago Pickling

GOURD (Cucurbita pepo ovifera):
Small Striped Mix

MUSKMELON (Cucumis melo reticulatus):
Eden's Gem
Rocky Ford (Orange Fleshed)

SQUASH, WINTER (Cucurbita pepo)
Sweet Dumpling

Labiatae (syn. Lamiaceae)--The Mint Family[/b]

BASIL (Ocimum basilicum)
Sweet French

CATNIP (Nepeta cataria)
Species catnip (no cultivar)


Leguminosae (syn. Fabaceae, Papilionaceae)--The Legume Family[/b]

ALFALFA (Medicago sativa)
Dormant, Standard Type

COWPEA (Vigna unguiculata
Ozark Razorback

Scrophulariaceae--The Mullein Family[/b]

MULLEIN (Verbascum thapsus)
Greater Mullein, yellow-flowered

Solanaceae--The Nightshade Family[/b]

MORNING GLORY (Ipomoea sp., subf. Convolvulaceae)
Southern Democrat (improved sel. of wild species)

TOMATO (Lycopersicon lycopersicum):
Early Stokesdale No. 4
Traveler
Usabec
Ice


All seeds are sold at a flat rate of $1.00 per packet. Please include a self-addressed stamped envelope along with your seed order, sent to:

Gen. 1 Seed Collection, c/o Jeffery Goss Jr., P.O. Box 14122, Springfield, Missouri 65814.

All seeds that I list are ecologically grown, non-GMO, non-hybrid, non-PVP, and untreated.

If you have any questions, you can ask me by e-mail: [e-mail] .

[jason]

Out of curiosity, what wild species is the southern dem morning glory selected from? Do you have any pictures?

[plantsnobin]

Anyone considering ordering some of these seeds should understand that a couple of the species are listed noxious weeds in some states.

[winter unfazed]

The Southern Dem. morning glory has been selected from Ipomoea hederacea. Morning glories are self-seeding, and therefore considered weeds by some (especially in the Northeast, and in the potato-growing regions of the West), but they are also grown on purpose by many gardeners.

I have given the "invasiveness factor" much consideration, and in the case of the MG, it is native to the U.S. and is frequented by insect pollinators. It does not displace other vegetation, either.

I'm much more concerned with plants like Berberis thunbergii, Eleagnus spp., Lonicera tatarica, Euphorbia spp., and Ricinus communis--all of which are still being sold at nurseries and seed-houses nationwide.

[plantsnobin]

I am not in an argumentative mood today, so I will just say that anyone who wants to look into this matter further only needs to google IPOMOEA hederacea. PLANTS database says that it is an introduced plant, as do many other sources. I damn sure don't want anyone close to me planting any milk thistle either. If anyone wants to go into the seed selling business they need to make sure that customers are aware of potential problems with species they are selling. It certainly is true that not all plants are problems in all climates. I am sure that you are an upstanding young man who wouldn't want to create problems for your customers. I know that thistle is touted as a liver tonic, and a breastfeeding boost. But we also need to keep in mind that it's seed floats around, landing on farmers fields. Those farmers don't give a rats ass about any possible benefits of that plant. They are going to get out the Roundup. So, you have just put more money in Monsanto's pocket by selling seeds of 'noxious weeds'. Now, I don't know you at all, but I am sure you don't want to help Monsanto, right? I do understand your desire to make a little money from seeds in your garden, and applaude the entreprenurial spirit. I also agree with your statement about some companies selling things that shouldn't be sold. It's funny how some of those business sell crap like that year after year. I guess there is always a new crop of gardeners coming along who just don't know better yet. Better to strive to be a company that takes the high road on these issues, I think. Your customers are sure to appreciate the fact that you wouldn't sell them something that they will regret having planted. I know I cringe when I see Cypress vine being sold. I planted that maybe 15 years ago, and it still comes up every year from seed. Hope I haven't offended with my statement, didn't mean to.

[jason]

Hmm, I'd never even heard of Ipomoea hederacea until now.

I have mixed feelings on the invasiveness issue. It seems like gardening and farming generally displaces native plants and their habitat (and everything that depends on it), and by doing so introduces new species, some of which will adapt and naturalize despite intentions. That is just how it goes. Many of the seriously invasive plants require disturbed ground to thrive and I think that's important to remember. I've grown both mullein and milk thistle, and maybe it is best to wildharvest these things, but they can be good plants to have around.

[canadamike]

There is a huge debate about invasive species, and there are strong arguments that mitigate in favor of many of them, like the zebra mussels, which are depoluting the great lakes and have multiplied by 5 the dying population of perch in the great lakes, and the imported liatris like flower in the east that is said to kill all live native plant. It does happen it supports 5 time more biological activities, augmenting the number of birds etc...

I don't know where to stand exactly, but go to JL Hudson Seedsman,the guy in charge wrote the book and discusses it...

I sure know the vegetal armageddon expected with the flower here never materialized....

[plantsnobin]

Truth is, I am not one to plant only 'native' plants myself. I think the whole native thing is kind of silly when you get right down to it. We live on a ball, and everything goes round eventually anyway. Change is the nature of nature, things will always be evolving. But, I still don't want to spend my gardening time pulling up plants that aren't exactly garden worthy to begin with, even if I know that the plants will work it out amongst themselves in a few thousand years. I love Dave and Sherri from JL Hudson. Anyone wanting to go into the seed business would do well to emulate their business model. Fast service, cheap shipping, real concern for doing the right thing. I've been buying from them for years.

[flowerpower]

Mike, the flower is called Purple Loosestrife. I will yank it anywhere I see it.

WU, all you need to do is say it "may be considered invasive in some areas". Then at least your customers will know.

[winter unfazed]

Good idea. I am going to put an invasiveness warning on the morning glory, the catnip, and the milk thistle. Actually it's the CATNIP that I have seen more invasiveness from, than any other plant on the list.

Karen, I agree with your point about the "only grow natives" idea. Another thing is that sometimes it's hard to say what's native anyway. For example, the red mulberry tree is often listed as native, but ethnobotanical evidence suggests that it was brought by the Chinese (Fleet of Zheng He) when they briefly visited the coast of Louisiana in 1421. (Chinese explorers often planted trees as legacies of their discoveries.) Greenland thyme is probably a remnant of domestic flora introduced by Icelandic settlers, and gourds are thought to have possibly floated to the Americas from West Africa. Point being, it isn't always easy to be sure what's native and what's not.

[plantsnobin]

Yep, some people really get bogged down with the 'native' notion. I am more concerned with the garden worthiness of a plant. The ability for a seed to lay dormant in the soil for years is good for the plant, not so good for my garden. I was ready a gardening journal from 1854, and this guy is talking about how he walked through the woods and along town streets, scattering seeds. Many of those he listed are considered weeds now. Funny to think about how things got where they are now. I suppose pavement will always be worse for 'native' plants than any 'exotic' plant could be. Anyway, in the old days there was kind of a rule about selling a new plant. Trial it for at least 3 years before you offer it for sell. Sadly, not practiced anymore by the agri-marketing businesses, but a worthwhile goal. A small point if you are going to be selling seeds also-you need to list number of seeds per packet. You don't have to acutally count them, just a 'minimum of whatever' will keep you out of trouble.

[winter unfazed]

The main purpose for the "3-year trial" rule is to ensure that a new strain breeds true. It takes 2 generations for all of the recessive genes to be culled out, and a third generation to yield true-breeding seed.