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Post by Jim on Dec 26, 2008 18:44:18 GMT -5
I'm after just a few kinds of smaller melons that are short season enough to mature in SE Michigan. I like big melons  , but I want to grow smaller one. Thoughts? |
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Post by canadamike on Dec 26, 2008 19:14:19 GMT -5
I'll take care of it Jim. Depending on what you mean by big melons  Seiously, in the garden, smaller kinds are often on top of the game. How many do you want? |
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Post by Jim on Dec 27, 2008 6:37:41 GMT -5
just a couple of seeds for a few varieties. 3 or 4 kinds... thanks Mike
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Post by raymondo on Jan 5, 2009 5:03:58 GMT -5
So Mike, what are some good short season melon varieties? I'm not angling for seeds, just advice. Often we only get two months of good hot melon growing weather, and sometimes no melon weather at all! The easiest to grow here so far is Green Nutmeg.
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Post by biorag on Jan 5, 2009 6:49:01 GMT -5
Hi Raymondo !
Here, the earliest I've tried is "noir des carmes" followed by "petit gris de Rennes".
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Post by raymondo on Jan 5, 2009 7:05:26 GMT -5
Merci biorag. J'adore les melons et je cherche toujours les précoces. I have seeds for both of those so I will definitely give them a try next season.
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Post by biorag on Jan 5, 2009 7:24:28 GMT -5
Raymondo : your french is better than my english !!! I've also tried to cross "jaune canari hâtif" with "noir des carmes" last year. My first adventure in melon crossing. If you want some seeds ..... ? |
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Post by canadamike on Jan 5, 2009 12:05:09 GMT -5
I was incredibly surprised at the amount of ''70 days or less'' melons I could find in Grin-USA. These will get priority in the trials. Raymondo, these mostly come from mountain areas, hence colder night and drier climate, so there should be some very good for you. So I will be able to send you seeds for the next season. Meanwhile, Ha'ogen ( Ogen) and Jenny Lind should also do well. Do you use plastic on the soil? I stay away from Minnessota midget, I never was satisfied with its taste. Everytime I read it is delicious, I tend to think that we, gardeners, are so proud to eat what we grow that our pride takes over our taste buds... Ray, please send me back you adress, I will ship seeds to you... |
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Post by orflo on Jan 5, 2009 12:39:40 GMT -5
Oh Michel, I like the taste of minnesota midget very much...and yes, I have grown good melons.... ;D ;D ;D
It's funny, melons can taste very differently grown in other places; probably due to all kind of conditions: soil, climate, watering, nutrition,... I have a friend at about 35 km from here, and he grows absolutely delightful 'noir de carmes' melons. And when I grow them, they're worthless...Same with the streits freiland grungenetzt, over here they are one of the best ever, and apparently they are tasteless in Wales....
Here are some of 'my' earliest: minnesota midget, gris de rennes, de Bellegarde, streits freiland grungenetzt, ananas rouge/ vert d'Amérique, ...
Does the green nutmeg become tasty, Raymondo? Over here it's early enough, but tasteless (probably the same story...)
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Post by lavandulagirl on Jan 5, 2009 12:55:42 GMT -5
Is Green Nutmeg named so for it's shape, or it's expected taste, or perhaps it was developed in Connecticut? I've never tasted it, but would be interested in a melon that was supposed to have a spiced flavor.
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Post by canadamike on Jan 5, 2009 13:08:03 GMT -5
Lav, nutmeg melons are the ones with green flesh. For some reason, someone has found they have a nutmeg taste. That's somebody smoking really good shit....
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Post by raymondo on Jan 6, 2009 1:25:28 GMT -5
Personally, I think it's the shape that gives the name nutmeg. They do have a kind of spiciness to them but it's not pronounced.
Orflo, I find the Green Nutmeg quite variable in flavour, not just from season to season, but fruit from the same plant can be quite different, one excellent and another very medoicre!
Biorag, j'habitais en France pendant 5 ans. Voilà pourquoi mon français est assez bon.
Now melon seeds is one thing we can import here without a problem, so the results of a cross between Jaune canari hâtif and Noir des Carmes would be very interesting to grow.
Biorag and Michel, I've sent you both a PM.
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Post by canadamike on Jan 6, 2009 1:42:14 GMT -5
I haven't got yours . And while we are at it, can you remind me of what I whas supposed to send you, provided it has not been made illegal ? I found my seeds... they nhad been placed in beer cases and returned to the farm... I will never know who....
I am sending you some Haogen and Jenny Lind for sure...and Altaï, Lunéville...
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Post by Jim on Jan 6, 2009 13:38:13 GMT -5
I have seed for Haogen. Do you get good results with it?
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Post by canadamike on Jan 6, 2009 15:30:05 GMT -5
Fabulous. and this will be a king in breding too. It has the wonderful taste and all the looks of a supermodel. He looks a bit like the petit gris de Rennes and other french true cantaloupes, very refined and mouth watering eye pleaser. You feel you want to eat the skin too. It a go go go on that one buddy, and quite productive too. I will also send seeds of it to you Ray, as it grows well in the mountains of California...
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, but I want to grow smaller one. Thoughts?
