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Post by michaeljohnson on Mar 12, 2009 1:08:42 GMT -5
Here is a real stomach churner, In certain parts of India and Goa they have unique methods of disposing of human waste, by constructing an outside toilet over a pig sty-the toilets themselves are a wooden double or triple hole affair with up to three holes cut into a wide board so that several people can sit side by side if nessesary and talk to each other and chat -betwenn straining and grunting  etc, newspapers are cut into six inch squares and hung on a nail just inside the door to use afterwards. Underneath the holes in the wood is a sheer drop of some four foot or more into the pig sty- where four or five pigs are roaming all the time, and the theory is that the pigs eat up the human waste and then re-produce it in there own pig manure to be used on the land. But I am reliably told from experienced users of this method of toilet composting unit, that the trick is- to make sure that a tall pig does not pass under the toilet hole whilst you are actually using it-otherwise they have been known to reach up and give your backside a rasping lick or two, as they obviously have a liking for curry flavour-thus saving on the paper- I kid you not ;D |
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Post by canadamike on Mar 12, 2009 1:22:11 GMT -5
Michael: it is not polite to laugh about customs you have not tried  I vote that we all chip in to send you there to get a lick of two from the 4 legged friend. Who knows, you might enjoy it, we will never know unless you try... Well over 60, one should take all the ass licks he can get with gratitude...  |
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Post by michaeljohnson on Mar 13, 2009 0:24:05 GMT -5
I have been there several times in the past- but refused point blank to use the weird contraption, used to bake everything until I got to a suitable hotel nearby -but even there they had these weird things like a hole in the concrete floor and two places to put your feet in- I am not keen on those either, they are used by both sexes as there is no seperate toilet for women, last time I was stood in a queue there- a woman came out complaining that she didnt like those as she was all the time peeing on her heels whilst squatting over this hole in the ground. Just cant beat the conventional thomas crapper pot versions.  |
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Post by pattyp on Mar 13, 2009 12:28:28 GMT -5
I'm not an experienced gardener when it comes to composting poo, so I'm wondering why the urine is separated from the poo in a composting toilet before composting.
Thanks for the information.
Patty
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Post by canadamike on Mar 13, 2009 13:25:35 GMT -5
I have not looked to the plans or diagrams of the toilets, but with lots of liquids in the mix I know for sure aerobic composting would be harder to achieve.
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potagere
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On slopes of the Jura nr Geneva, Switz. Zone 7a/b, but colder microclimate. About 52 sq m in veggies
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Post by potagere on Mar 13, 2009 14:28:21 GMT -5
I worked in Papua New Guinea for several years and then spent nearly 2 decades in SE Asia.
There is nothing at all strange, uncommon or "stomach churning" about "pig toilets". They are far more efficient than the Thomas Crappers, and anyone who has a problem with the also more efficiently designed and ergonomically correct "one-hole-with 2 foot-marks" toilets probably has other biologic issues.
Normally, however, the pig toilets are raised at least 6 feet above ground. Any tales of pigs "reach[ing] up and giv[ing] your backside a rasping lick or two" are pure mythology. If the pig can reach high enough to "lick" your ass, it will rip it off for food!
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Post by michaeljohnson on Mar 14, 2009 0:30:45 GMT -5
"Yes"-I suppose that you are right But-I have been reliably told by experienced users of the Pig toilets in Goa when I was out there- that the Bacon and pork etc from when they eventually kill the pigs-ain't half tasty, apparently it imparts a sort of Gamey flavour to the meat ;D |
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Post by potagere on Mar 16, 2009 12:13:08 GMT -5
In the 4 years we were in PNG, I never noticed that.
Maybe they are more used to factory pork?
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Post by Alan on Mar 23, 2009 19:39:29 GMT -5
My little humanure hut is working out very efficiently. It's like a solar outhouse essentially, built inside of a Rion eight foot by eight food hobby greenhouse, it makes for a lovely experience, I have not used the indoor toilets for nearly three weeks. For anyone interested in the composting toilet check out the blog at homegrowngoodness.blogspot.comFor the compost bins we accquired two wooden four foot by four foot bins and sank them about a foot into the ground on top of a bed of very fine gravel for lechate. I lined the bin I'm using at the moment with a bit of straw and a ton of day old bread to use as a biological sponge. Several bucketts of humanure, kitchen scraps, and nearly 300 lbs of used coffee grounds have been added, when checked early this morning the compost was active at 150 degrees F. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 6, 2009 9:59:31 GMT -5
The price of the composting toilets makes them an impossibility for us at the moment. However, I would much rather figure a way to incorporate the cooking terra preta with the toilet. No bugs because of the heat, no smell because of the heat, no "interested dogs" because of the heat, no pathogens because of the heat. And consider this, if you built a sort of outhouse on top and put a pipe along the house to vent the smoke, it would appear that you are really cooking up some great stuff inside! ;o)
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 6, 2009 10:05:39 GMT -5
Alan, sounds like your set up is very much like a miniature TP pit. Have you considered adding other items?
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Post by oldfatguy on Apr 10, 2009 17:31:50 GMT -5
I used to know a guy that made charcol brickettes out of human waste. As you may have noticed, I said "Used to know."
Sounds like EColi heaven to me.
Things are going to have to be really, really bad before I start thinking of things to do with human poop. Really BAD!
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Post by Alan on Apr 13, 2009 17:23:51 GMT -5
Hey oldfatguy, welcome to Homegrown Goodness. With proper composting and curing of the compost there is no worry concerning disease, however as an assurance we won't use this compost for food crops that come in contact with the soil, instead this compost will be used for fruiting trees and the establishment of our small orchard/vineyard in the coming years.
I do add other things to the pile/pit, not just humanure but also table scraps, coffee grounds, chicken manure, goat manure, leaves, and a ton of day old bread.
A temperature check this morning revealed the active pile to be composting along nicely at nearly 170 degrees F!
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Post by Owen on Oct 16, 2009 11:42:01 GMT -5
Over the summer I built a composting outhouse from logs and old tarps and finally got started in humaure composting. Although it's too early for me to give any results my system so far is to have a designated humanure pile where I also add cow and chicken manure to bulk up the pile and get more biological activity going. It's basically a three foot high base of cow manure and bedding with a furrow in the centre that we'll fill with humanure, building up the cow manure sides as the pile grows. I'll let the whole thing rot and steam away for a year before I spread it.
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Post by bunkie on Oct 20, 2009 14:21:23 GMT -5
sounds good owen. will look forward to your results.
jo, how hot does the terra preta pit get? if it is too hot, wouldn't it destroy the good microbes in the poo?
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etc, newspapers are cut into six inch squares and hung on a nail just inside the door to use afterwards.
