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Post by stratcat on Mar 22, 2009 14:12:32 GMT -5
I received one black-and-tan bean in with my Purple Rain beans in 2006. Robert had just died and his brother, James, filled my SSE Yearbook request. Grew the bean out in 2008. The pods were 5" long, green and blue, and contained 4-5 bean seeds. I ate one bean raw and it was very tasty! Anyone know this one?
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Post by americangardener on Mar 22, 2009 15:50:58 GMT -5
Well Strat.. you couldn't find a harder question? That's like trying to identify a corn species by the color of the seed only harder.
My guess from your descripion would be a variety called tendergreen. The seeds are identical, and pods sound the same.
What i don't have to go on is whether it's bush or pole? I'm guessing by the purple rain name you were expecting a purple podded variety. But, I don't know whether PR is a pole or a bush either so i can't even use that as a guess as to which i should be looking for..
Tendergreen is a bush variety. But, it's still just a guess.. there are so many seeds that are black and tan it's only narrowing it down from ten thousand varieties to around a hundred or so. Now if it's supposed to be a bush variety i'd say we're then down to maybe 3-4 dozen possibilitys. Got any other info such as plant height, Days to harvest, pod descriptions.. (rnd, flt, straight, curved.. etc), greasy type, romano type, etc???
Not that i'm gonna try another guess.. but it may help someone else figure it out for ya...
Dave
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Post by stratcat on Mar 22, 2009 18:21:53 GMT -5
Thanks, Dave.
Oops! It's a bush bean. Unfortunately, I didn't get any photos of the plant or many notes written.
Purple Rain bush bean has really pretty purple seeds and pods.
john
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Post by flowerpower on Mar 23, 2009 6:09:36 GMT -5
Grew the bean out in 2008. The pods were 5" long, green and blue, and contained 4-5 bean seeds. I ate one bean raw and it was very tasty! Anyone know this one? They are green/blue striped or both colors on the same plant? Sounds interesting. Nice patterning on the seeds too. Any way of cross-checking it with his other offers or are there too many?
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Post by americangardener on Mar 23, 2009 6:47:29 GMT -5
Yeah Flower.. that's what i would think. If you could get a listing of his other offerings it would be easier to narrow it down to a likely match. Least if you find one it'd be easy enough to just say it was a mixed in seed.
What color seed is the purple rain btw.. is it likely to be a cross with something to make your off colored seed? Say like if the PR is a black or brown or mottled seed or some thing along those lines?
My first hunch would be it's a mixed in seed from something else he grew and saved seed from that year. And chances are pretty good he'd of listed it too.
Dave
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Post by stratcat on Mar 23, 2009 22:35:16 GMT -5
Hi.
The snap beans were green with a bluish cast. Quite unusual.
I went out in my cottage garden near the sidewalk tonight and measured the bean plant. I had it tied to a stick since last year and it is 19" tall.
Purple Rain seed is smaller and ranges in color from purple with white to lavender.
Last year I went through Lobitz' 2006 listings with no luck. I'll have to dig out earlier yearbooks and get my concentration level up.
I appreciate all your help. Thanks.
john
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Post by flowerpower on Mar 24, 2009 6:52:07 GMT -5
Good luck, John! It seems like it was just a mix-up. It would be cool if it turned out to be something kind of rare. So definitely keep saving seed for it.
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Post by stratcat on Mar 28, 2009 14:48:13 GMT -5
Here's another photo of the Unknown bean seeds with Purple Rain bean seeds and a coin. Still need to look in older Yearbooks.
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Post by flowerpower on Mar 29, 2009 5:54:54 GMT -5
Maybe someone at the SSE forums might recognize it. Or at least help you narrow it down. The purple rain is pretty.
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Post by stratcat on Mar 29, 2009 11:42:25 GMT -5
Hi. I've also asked over at SSE and Tomato Land forums. SSE catalog has one of Robert's many beans. Peace Seedlings and Peace Seeds have some. Seeds of Change has five bush bean selections with more to come. Long Lake Giant, Purple Dove, Purple Rose, Robert's Royalty, and Rose Creek. Such interesting beans!
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Post by loki on May 27, 2009 10:13:34 GMT -5
They look just like the Paiute pinto beans I just planted. However there are probaby 20-30 it could be, or even a sport (spontaneous mutation). I don't know what color the Paiute Pinto is when fresh, and it's not listed this year from Native Seed Search. It is an early bush bean, and it reported to make both a good snap , shelling, and dry bean.
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