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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 8, 2009 7:27:33 GMT -5
Bundleflower (Desmanthus illinoensis) has recently come to my attention as a perennial legume crop that self seeds, sometimes annoyingly so I've heard. It would be borderline hardy here at best (zone 6), I think. Then again, I've seen it listed as hardier. But, heck, that won't stop me from trying. I am not sure what kind of season it has. (Don't suppose anyone has any seeds?  ) Anyone know this plant? I am also interested in redbud. There's a local place that sells some northern seeds but I won't be able to try it out until I get permanent farm land (Michel - do you know a good realtor?). Oh and Siberian Pea Shrub though I understand this one is weedy too. Telsing. |
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Post by plantsnobin on Apr 8, 2009 7:49:56 GMT -5
I have it sown, again from seeds from Prairie Moon. I will try to remember to look and see if I sowed all of the seeds or not. If I have any left I will send them to you. If you don't hear from me in a couple of days, send me a pm to remind me. Karen
Oh, and the Pea shrub germinates very easily from seed, but then I read more about it and decided it may not be such a good idea. Though it is supposed to make a really good chicken feed. I was going to plant it in the chickens area so they could harvest it themselves. I think in Canada is a really frowned upon to plant it though.
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 8, 2009 8:40:37 GMT -5
Thanks!
Peashrub: In the prairies, it is considered invasive. I can't remember it's status in Ontario but it's possibly a 'frowned' upon plant. There is a lot of it growing as hedges around here, that's for sure.
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Post by canadamike on Apr 8, 2009 9:10:39 GMT -5
Pea shrub: is it caragana? I have seeds of 2 species I did not plant last year. My father has a caragana hedge in zone 3, and I can't see what's invasive about it.... the seeds are edible and very high in protein.
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 8, 2009 9:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by ceara on Apr 8, 2009 11:12:22 GMT -5
I just got some from a friend in March! Could send you some. Send me your address.
I was interested in this plant as well as a legume. This plant has really interesting looking foliage too. It is used to help retain soil and prevent erosion in some places. Other uses (which causes the general frowning) is that it contains the psychoactive compound DMT.
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 8, 2009 14:40:04 GMT -5
Cerea: I PMed you.
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Post by loki on May 27, 2009 15:09:20 GMT -5
Illinois bundleflower is hardy to at least zone 4. It's native in Wisconsin and Minnesota. We grew it last year here in northern UT. I killed all of mine! But I think a friend has it and did very well. I'll ask. It needs cold treatment to germinate. I got it from westernnativeseed.com/wildflowers.html. |
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Post by canadamike on May 27, 2009 17:50:15 GMT -5
Telsing, a friend of mine just bought a 200 acres farm and a 25 acres lot. Do you want me to REALLY keep on looking into it? I can probably find land easier than a farm, although I am sure a homestead of some sort would be a better investment in the east, given the development of Rockland and Wendover.
Even if the land stays agricultural ( which I hope, and would probably happen),not being in the middle of knowhere usually helps in that regard. And in 5 years, a lot of them won't be in the middle of nowhere anymore.
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Post by flowerweaver on Feb 22, 2014 19:03:43 GMT -5
It's a native here in southwest Texas, too. I have it growing in my short grass prairie. It's not at all invasive here, but with so little precipitation not much is.
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Post by blueadzuki on Feb 22, 2014 21:39:24 GMT -5
Never grown this one, but, ironically, I may have seed for it (or, at least seed for a close relative).
Back when I was starting out sorting rice beans, there was one seed I found very often,a small flat tan legume about the size of a sesame seed, clearly of the Mimosoidae (it had a micropyle, so that pretty much put it in either the Mimosoide or a very small section of the Caesapaloidae0 And when I say it showed up a lot I mean a LOT, like 20-30 seeds PER BAG. I actually lost the first storage bottle of this seed I had, but that was a pint bottle and, at the time I lost it it was FULL. The current one is a bit smaller (maybe a 6 oz bootle, and about 7/8 full but weed control must be better, since it now doesn't show up more than once in a blue moon (and even then, it's 1-2 seeds, not 20-30. I've always assumed it was giant sensitive plant, Mimosa invisa(now Mimosa diplotricha) But now that I have seen a picture of bundleflower seed, and know that it IS planted in places like Asia for fodder, I just don't know. I doub't I have illinoiensis, but there is virgatus.........
I suppose there is nothing for it but to at some point bite the bullet, sow some of the seeds in a pot, wait until the plants get old enough to flower check the flower color (and hope that virgatushas the same white flowers as illinoiensis as opposed to Mimosa invisia's hot pink/purple. ) and have some pruners on hand in case it really IS giant sensitive plant and needs to be taken down (giant sensitive plant is a much nastier plant than common Mimosa pudica; bigger lankier thornier messier. Plus for all I know I may have REALLY screwed up and there is Mimosa pigraseed floating around in that bottle, collossal sensitive plant (with the added bonus of pods covered with stinging hairs.)
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Post by MikeH on Feb 22, 2014 22:02:09 GMT -5
I'll be growing it this year with Prairie Moon seeds. Also Psoralea esculenta.
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Post by flowerweaver on Feb 22, 2014 22:58:10 GMT -5
Jeremy, I have Mimosa microphylla in my prairie, and Mimosa borealis, a small shrub that looks very similar.
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