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Post by cannaisseur on Jun 21, 2007 20:36:49 GMT -5
I am just wondering what are everyones favorite tomatoes are in terms of flavor, color etc.
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Post by Blueflint on Jun 21, 2007 21:31:52 GMT -5
You really opened up a can of worms on this one.  Flavor is subjective...so here goes. My absolute favorite would be Black Mountain Pink, a large pink beefsteak type with a balance of sweet and tang. Favorite bi-color is Hillbilly, a nice large sweet fruit. Favorite yellow is Kentucky Beefsteak, a nice sweet fruity flavored tomato. Favorite small tomato would be either Yellow Pear or Matina, both great producers with great but different flavor. Favorite heavy producer of medium sized fruit would be Wisconsin 55 and Heinz 1350, both with great flavor. Ohhhh then there are the Cherokee Purples with their complex smokey flavor. |
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Post by johno on Jul 22, 2007 17:40:14 GMT -5
My Black Mountain Pinks were in the late planting, so I'm still waiting to try those...
I like everything about the flavor and appearance of my Cherokee Purples. They were a bit late out of the gate, though.
I had one early Hillbilly sneak up on me. It used to be high on my list for flavor - this early one was a little bland. Maybe the next one will live up to what I remember.
My best new one so far is Watermelon Beefsteak. It's a pink beefsteak with balanced flavor. A good tomato all the way around.
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Post by PapaVic on Jul 23, 2007 7:46:38 GMT -5
I have to agree with Johno ... Cherokee Purple indeed are my favorite in terms of color, shape and taste. The potato leaf variant Tom Trees sent me this year is by far the best I've ever grown. So far I've gotten over 20 perfectly shaped, uniformly sized, delicious and beautiful tomatoes off that one plant. We ate two more last night ... yummy!
Still seeking a red and a pink with the same attributes. Marianna's Conflict comes very close in the red category and Novikov's Giant in pink.
Bill
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Jul 23, 2007 7:59:23 GMT -5
What is it about PL plants that make them taste better? Is it the fact that they have to work less to make leaf shapes and therefore can expend more energy on flavour? PLCP mmmm now that sounds good I had one PL germinate in the 8 or 10 Granny Cantrell Red's that I started, but as luck would have it, it was one of the seedlings that were destroyed by the evil fungied computer paper pots.. |
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Post by johno on Jul 23, 2007 12:48:50 GMT -5
I was really hoping to hear about Granny Cantrell's...
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Post by PapaVic on Jul 23, 2007 17:01:51 GMT -5
BlueLace,
The Marianna's Conflict is regular leaf and the Novikov's Giant is an intermediate leaf form between regular and potato leaf. I don't think the fact that the Cherokee Purple I'm fond of this year happens to be potato leaf has all that much to do with it's great flavor. In fact, he regular leaf Cherokee Purple growing next to it is producing fabulous tasting tomatoes as well ... maybe even better tasting than the PL plant.
Likewise ... I really don't think the leaf form is all that relevant to the taste on a variety by variety basis. I've had wonderful flavors from all leaf types. My preference for the PL form of the Cherokee Purple is due to this one plant's ability to produce a load of perfectly shaped and beautifully colored fruit that happens to taste as good as the regular leaf Cherokee Purple.
By all means ... don't overlook regular leaf tomatoes just because someone has left you with the false impression that potato leaf types are always more flavorful. That's not proven fact IMO.
Bill
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Jul 23, 2007 20:32:31 GMT -5
Bill, Maybe it's all the talk on TL about PL that made me ask it in that vein?? Seems I've come across as believing that PL are the be-all of tomatodom?? Nah...
I'm not even growing any PL plants this year..
My all time fave is CP, bar none...
And Johno, my GRanny's are just starting to blossom. They are actually the second last of my first planting to do so. I've several other varieties that have fruit; just not ripe yet.
I'll let you know what I think of them as the season progresses..
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Post by downinmyback on Jul 23, 2007 23:00:58 GMT -5
billpapavic I was wondering if i save seeds from a plant with intermediate leaf that should be potato leaf would the seeds produce the right type of leaves next season.
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Post by PapaVic on Jul 24, 2007 7:43:23 GMT -5
Down, That's a good question. This year I'm growing Novikov's Giant. Andrey Baranovski of Minsk, Belarus sent me three seeds last year. Two sprouted. One is pure potato leaf and one plant is the correct intermediate leaf form supposedly associated with Novikov's Giant. Since the cultivar is little known here and this is the first time I've grown it, I don't know whether it typically throws both kinds of leaves or what the rate of PL to normal leaf form might be. If you post at Tomatoville, you may ask Andrey your question directly. Also others there may know the answer. But if I were you, I'd ask the question at TomatoLand (www.tomatoland.net) and in particular, I would ask Bill Malin (Spudleaf Willie) who has been growing potato leaf and intermediate leaf tomatoes for several decades. He is the moderator at this area of the Website: www.tomatoland.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=a943cfecb99b5e6182661b6c2620933eIn the meanwhile, I would imagine that if you saved seeds from a plant with an intermediate leaf form that should otherwise have been a potato leaf cultivar, that you might get potato leaf forms in some of the offspring next season. But I think it would depend upon what exactly caused the intermediate leaf form to show up. If it were a true mutation, then the intermediate leaf form may be permanent. If it were due to a cross pollination in previous years, then the potato leaf form still present in the genetic structure of the seed should show itself in some percentage of the next years sprouts ... say 25% in the F2 and varying or possibly dwindling percentages as time went along. Once you had recaptured the potato leaf form, then you could expect higher percentages of that shape as generations progressed. Again ... ask Spudleaf Willie. He's the expert in this regard. Also, KCTomato (Keith) at TomatoLand will have some very keen insight into your question. Bill |
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Post by downinmyback on Jul 24, 2007 12:32:37 GMT -5
Billpapavic i want to thank you for your answering my question. I do not post on TV anymore as i got tired of being made to feel inferior to a few of their bigshots. The only replies i would get was look in the FAQ and who could ever find the answer in so many topic. I did go to TL and ask Spudleafwillie the question. Thanks again for helping.
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Post by downinmyback on Jul 31, 2007 21:08:15 GMT -5
I guess i got banned from TV for making this post. Oh well life goes on.
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Post by Mischka on Aug 1, 2007 19:01:55 GMT -5
I guess i got banned from TV for making this post. Oh well life goes on. You aren't banned from Tomatoville®. Why would you say such a thing?  |
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Post by downinmyback on Aug 1, 2007 19:17:50 GMT -5
Well after i loged in it said the servers are busy Try Again .I have tried many times with the same message so that why i figger i was banned. So what is wrong then.
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Post by Mischka on Aug 1, 2007 19:37:35 GMT -5
If you get a server is busy message, it doesn't mean you're banned.  We've been experiencing a huge volume of traffic lately and it could be the cause. In any event, I would appreciate it if you'd email me versus declaring you've been banned if you're having a problem accessing my site. I would be happy to assist you. |
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Flavor is subjective...so here goes. My absolute favorite would be Black Mountain Pink, a large pink beefsteak type with a balance of sweet and tang. Favorite bi-color is Hillbilly, a nice large sweet fruit. Favorite yellow is Kentucky Beefsteak, a nice sweet fruity flavored tomato. Favorite small tomato would be either Yellow Pear or Matina, both great producers with great but different flavor. Favorite heavy producer of medium sized fruit would be Wisconsin 55 and Heinz 1350, both with great flavor. Ohhhh then there are the Cherokee Purples with their complex smokey flavor.
