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Post by atimberline on Aug 23, 2009 0:56:42 GMT -5
After finding perennials some years back I began some crossbreeding efforts. The wild perennials have nasty bitter little fruit and are generally quite spiny, but they regen from root tissue readily after winter lows of -5 F to -10F and have huge levels of disease and insect tolerance.
...One of the things i learned inadvertently in my crossing attempts was how to develope true breeding egg lines rapidly.. (that is a story for later).
Another thing I learned is that I need to collect and work with a wider range of eggs... If you wish to contribute to this effort and /or be a part of the breeding effort let me know
Tim Peters
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 23, 2009 1:01:19 GMT -5
Im interested, in anything like this, but not sure how much I could help here, because I dont know what eggplants taste like, or even look like. I hope you ge where your trying to go. this is amazing work, I thank you as a human<seriously
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Post by johno on Aug 23, 2009 6:28:08 GMT -5
I may be interested in this, too.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 23, 2009 7:00:48 GMT -5
Have you looked at Asian types? There is a Thai eggplant that looks like a tomatillo as a matter of fact. It's green and stripy but has no husk. Eggplant is a very important part of Asian cuisines and more so in southeastern cultures such as India, Thailand, Vietnam... etc.
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Post by atimberline on Aug 23, 2009 10:15:28 GMT -5
Have you looked at Asian types? There is a Thai eggplant that looks like a tomatillo as a matter of fact. It's green and stripy but has no husk. Eggplant is a very important part of Asian cuisines and more so in southeastern cultures such as India, Thailand, Vietnam... etc. yes some from Loas have slight ability to regenerate from root/crown... I would like more samples |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 23, 2009 10:56:44 GMT -5
If you could do it from store bought fruit, you might want to ask Castanea. He lives in California and has access to Asian markets. I don't know where he lives exactly though. If you know anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area in particular, they could really get you some samples. That would be ideal.
Could you do seed? If yes, you could try "Evergreen" seed co. They are solely Asian seed. I came across another Asian seed company just within the last few days .... can't think of the name for the life of me. If you have cash flow issues, post a wish list and I'll buy as many as I can for you.
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Post by canadamike on Aug 23, 2009 16:06:42 GMT -5
Tim, I just got 105 accessions of very early and early eggplants from Grin for next year,s work. Anything you want me to do , just say so.
I belong is doing fantastic, it is winning the race now over another numbered accession that is very early.
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Post by ottawagardener on Aug 23, 2009 16:42:08 GMT -5
I'm interested but I can only help in a minimal way.
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Post by grungy on Aug 23, 2009 22:18:33 GMT -5
Tim, we can do 2 or 3 varieties for you if you would like.
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Post by atimberline on Aug 23, 2009 22:44:53 GMT -5
well, Grungy, Thanks. But i am not ready to need increases of anything, far from it.
and thank you o. gardener...
thank you for the news Michel, and for the offer
and thank you all...
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Post by atimberline on Aug 31, 2009 9:58:09 GMT -5
Im interested, in anything like this, but not sure how much I could help here, because I dont know what eggplants taste like, or even look like. I hope you ge where your trying to go. this is amazing work, I thank you as a human<seriously Silverseed ...I passed thru Dancing Eagle about 2 years ago ...along that route over 2-300 miles I found a race of eggplant with small marble size fruit whose plant was nearly thornless... you might look for it |
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 31, 2009 10:05:00 GMT -5
You mean the casiono? LOL I never even saw a eggplant plant. I will have to see what one even looks like. What color are the fruit? I have something in my yard with yellow things on it I never tried to identify it.
I did find a wild potatoe out here, Id love to try to use breeding to keep its hardyness, but take out the poison. Its a little bitter, although I guess a few tribes here used to eat it.
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Post by silverseeds on Aug 31, 2009 10:19:19 GMT -5
I could only find one picture of an actual eggplant plant. I dont think Ive seen this wild one. Would now be about the time to try to harvest fresh seed? Does anyone have a link to more pictures so I can try to identify it?
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Post by loveapple on Sept 17, 2009 1:43:58 GMT -5
Tim and Mike, if you have any any plants that look likely to make good container plants, under two feet tall and producing edible fruit, I would be interested in trialing them.
Mike, that was a heroic effort to order all of those from Grin. I haven't figured out how to search on height so I don't have any eggies on my current Grin wishlist, but they certainly had a bunch of em!
Tim, are you the breeder I read about who grows seed tomatoes in 16 OZ cups? Could that be right? Anyway, it was reading that learning that gave me the incentive to start pushing the envelope on pot size in my search for veggie lines suited to indoor container gardening. So far, Rosa Bianca is my gold standard for small, tasty, and productive.
And if you are the same Peters who produced Navtive Sun, I was very impressed with its earliness and production. Unfortunately I didn't get to vote on taste, and I'm having trouble getting the racoons to come to the ballot box. But it's a definite starter for next year's outdoor garden. Thanks!
Jan
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Post by loveapple on Sept 17, 2009 11:18:57 GMT -5
I went back and looked at my ep notes, from when I started to go through this section observation page by page. I hope one of you guys picked this or another prostrate ep up for your breeding project
PI 244716 A nearly prostrate form introduced from Turkey with seeds of Capsicum frutescens in 1949. Fruits oblong ovate, to 6in long, purple turning dull brown.
Although dull brown fruit won't win any appearance award, the growth habit is intriguing.
Jan
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