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Post by plantsnobin on Oct 5, 2009 9:29:39 GMT -5
We went here last Saturday as part of our KY weekend. I highly recommend this guy. Really knows his stuff, and won't sell you something that won't grow in your area. He forgot that we might be coming but still skipped his lunch because he truly wanted to show us around, we spent more than an hour there, looking over his trees and tasting everything as we went. You should see all the nuts he has in his work area. Nuts in sacks all over the walls, and he is happy to share so you can taste what you like. I thought my husband wouldn't be thrilled with this, but he really enjoyed it as much as I did. He didn't even complain when it was time to hand over the money-and we got a couple of trees that weren't even on my list. Heres what we brought home. I got all but two planted yesterday, not sure where I am going to put the two heart nuts yet.    Clifford England is the guys name, I think the website is www.nuttrees.netHe does mail order, but I think there are restrictions west of the rockies. If you ever are near McKee KY, give him a call to take a tour. Ok, not many folks are ever going to be near McKee KY, but check out his website if you are looking for nut trees. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 5, 2009 15:12:13 GMT -5
VERY interesting Karen! Teeny problem with the link, this is what it should be: www.nuttrees.net/This hit my eye right off for several reasons. Not the least of which that I am nutty for nuts!  I'd LOVE to visit this place. I've been wondering why my hazelnuts didn't fruit and it may be something with the varieties I have. They are, to the best of my knowledge, the same type (the two that are side by side and are the oldest trees we have). As I understand the web page, we may need to get an additional variety to actually pollinate? I may have to get the gentleman on the phone. Great write up! I sure do appreciate it! |
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Post by plantsnobin on Oct 5, 2009 16:31:40 GMT -5
Sorry for the wrong web address. Here is a list of what we came home with Meader, Elmo & Rosseyanka Persimmons, Naju Asian Pear, MU & R7T2 Jujube, 2 heartnut seedlings from Jewel Box, and a free Chestnut tree. Along with nuts, asian pear fruit & jujubes that I will grow for rootstock. He also had the best tasting almond, that a friend of his had 'procured' from Iran. Don't know if I will be able to grow it here, but I have 6 nuts that I am going to try. Our daughter has a couple of hazelnuts on her property, one produces nuts but they are always blank. Clifford opened up some of his and they were also blank. At his house is where he trials stuff, he has another farm where the row crops of trees are. You wouldn't believe that stuff could grow so well on the steep hillside he has. I wish that I had my camera, but it was in the truck and there was no way I was going to go back down and then back up to get a pic. He mows it with a tractor, no way would I have the stones for that. I was so glad that I could get trees at this time of year. It is best to plant in the fall where I am, things grow so much better now than in the spring. They have time to get the roots settled while it is still warm enough, but not too hot that they are losing moisture. Fall rains come and everything does great with less work for me. I wish more nurseries had container stock so we could plant everything in the fall.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 5, 2009 21:05:41 GMT -5
A blank nut? I have never heard of such! Does that mean the shell was empty? What on earth would cause that? hmmm...
Sounds like you had a serious blast at this place. We plant trees late fall and mid spring here bouts... Gosh I wish I could visit this place!
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 5, 2009 21:29:01 GMT -5
OK Karen... so this "blank nut" thing has my total attention and if I didn't try to find something on it I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight. ON the other hand... do I DARE to Google "blank nuts"? I mean really, what are my odds here?
So, with considerable consternation and feeling in my gut that I'm not really going to appreciate the results, I type in blank nuts and hit return. What do you suppose shows up? ANYthing to do with nuts as in those on trees? Well, in all fairness yea, the last entry on the page but its a scholarly treatsie on a site that won't allow you to view the useful information without forking over 6 arms, 2.8 legs, 15 pints of blood and a yanked fingernail. Wanna guess what the other sites were about?
Well?
Do you?
HARDWARE! Yup, hardware. Seems there is a real need in the world for blank nuts. What for? Hey, what else, a custom screw! ::shakes head:: I think I need to order my coffin now. =o)
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Post by castanea on Oct 5, 2009 21:39:15 GMT -5
Clifford is a great guy. He was sent back to the Middle East for a couple of years and the nursery closed for a little while. It's nice to know things are going well now. Clifford has some stuff that no one else has, especially some of the Asian trees he has.
I had my camera when I visited but I couldn't figure anyway to take a good photo of that steep hillside to do it justice.
Blank nuts are caused by a lack of pollination. You'll usually find some in hazlenuts and chestnuts even if you have a lot of pollinators.
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Post by grungy on Oct 5, 2009 22:07:23 GMT -5
Blank nut = empty nut shell
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Post by plantsnobin on Oct 6, 2009 8:51:31 GMT -5
Sorry about the blank nuts Jo-I should have said that it was due to lack of pollination. That hillside really is a killer. Clifford was injured in the service and has had several surgeries on his knee, I don't know how he makes it up and down that hill, but he did better than me or my husband.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Oct 6, 2009 13:00:19 GMT -5
Heaven's to mergatroid Karen! Nuthin' to be sorry for! ;o) I thought it was hysterically amusing. Had to call my husband in to see. I was expecting porn and hoping for at least 1 or 2 bits on trees. And to get a return of hardware?!?! Of all things?!?! HA! That was great!
However, your post has been most timely and a really great assistance as I'm concerned about why my hazelnuts which are now 3 years old, have produced no nuts. There is a dearth of data regarding hazelnuts to boot. Based on what I gleaned yesterday, I think that if I can get 1 or 2 other cultivars, I might be ok. We have trees from 3 different sources but I have no idea what the cultivars are and except for the ones in the truffle orchard I have no way of knowing or finding out what they are. I'm thinking of contacting Clifford and asking him what he recommends except that at this particular point in time I really don't have the money to invest in ordering any trees.
I'd really like to pay a visit to that part of the country though. Wouldn't it be cool if we all descended on Pekin Indiana for a week? Clifford is pretty close by... We could hara... ahem... HELP Alan about his place, then go exercise at Clifford's! ;o)
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Post by plantsnobin on Oct 6, 2009 17:01:29 GMT -5
  Ok, this is the area that Englands Nursery is in. I really had second thoughts about driving over that bridge. Not so much the bridge itself that worried me, but the nails sticking up could have put a hole in the tire. |
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Post by grungy on Oct 6, 2009 18:01:14 GMT -5
Ah Karen, the nails are there for traction when the bridge is wet or snowy. lol
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Post by Alan on Oct 16, 2009 7:54:14 GMT -5
Those are nice looking trees karen. How much was he charging on the Persimmon trees?
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Post by plantsnobin on Oct 16, 2009 8:28:13 GMT -5
ok, found my invoice. Elmo was $25, Meader was $35. Total of 9 trees for $210. And Mike didn't bat an eye when he handed over the money. I was holding my breath a bit on that, but all the way home he talked about planting trees!!! He wants more persimmons. Of course, we will need to find more land for more trees-thinking about where to move to. I would have loved to go to Crawford County and had Mike agreeing to that, but then Charlie came along and we don't want to be that far from him. So now we are thinking about buying land between Paoli and Orleans with enough room for eveyone. Not living in the same house, but on the same farm.
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Post by Alan on Oct 16, 2009 13:04:50 GMT -5
That's awesome karen! Let me know if you want some persimmon trees from seed next year!
Also, if you don't mind to, next year would you propigate me a couple of those jujubees?
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Post by plantsnobin on Oct 16, 2009 14:49:01 GMT -5
Alan, I have jujube fruit for you to taste if you make it over here soon. I have saved seeds from them too, and I can take cuttings from the trees next year. I also have an asian pear for you, as well as a few heartnuts. And i did go and get some of those crabapples from the cemetery. They are not as big as I though they would be, but they are downright cute. You need to get over this way sometime.
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I'd LOVE to visit this place. I've been wondering why my hazelnuts didn't fruit and it may be something with the varieties I have. They are, to the best of my knowledge, the same type (the two that are side by side and are the oldest trees we have). As I understand the web page, we may need to get an additional variety to actually pollinate? I may have to get the gentleman on the phone. 
