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Post by Darth Slater on Nov 27, 2009 22:04:47 GMT -5
Darths Wish list
I would like to grow the sweetest watermelon
I would like the latest tomato out there
Cristmas melon
Orange Cosmos
Amaranth all colors
pyrithium seeds
and a plant that would take away the excruciating pain i get from IBS.
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 28, 2009 1:03:02 GMT -5
Darth, I read your problem with IBS, My Daughter suffers from that also, mostly brought on by stress with work etc,
I don't know if you know this, but there has been a lot of experimenting going on with worms in the last few years and several hospitals and university hospitals have been experimenting with these worms, and they found that if they infect a person with a dose of (Sheep -Hook worm) and one or two other types of worms for about a month, whilst the worms are inside you they excrete a chemical substance that completely cures IBS for years to come, whilst they feed, after one month they give you something else to kill off the worms and their eggs in two dose three weeks apart, and then you are free of them.
I know it sounds unpleasant and gruesome but if it cures the problem it's worth making an enquiry about it as they must be doing it in the USA as well.
Apparently -they say that because of modern living and conditions hardly anyone gets a dose of natural thread worms or even a tape worm or two these days, not even dogs and cats on the scale that they used to do years ago, and together with the mass use of antibiotics etc, it has almost eliminated them.
According to scientific study all these new cases of IBS and similar bowel complaints and diseases have sprung up and increased since that time all because we hardly have any worms these days which are it seems-very necessary in children or young teens to have had them and then got rid of them to prevent these new diseases from being a problem in later life.
So-grusome as it sounds it looks as if the tiny threadworms and the like have a usefull place in life after all.
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Post by paquebot on Nov 28, 2009 10:55:51 GMT -5
Olympic Flame shouldn't really exist...something about the USOC making the person who named it remove the Olympic part of the name. Old Flame and just plain Flame are aka for it. Not to be confused with Hillbilly, which is often called Flame, but shouldn't be... Conflicting information. Some sources claim that Big Rainbow is the former Olympic Flame. Fruit are close to identical. Martin |
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Post by mjc on Nov 28, 2009 12:21:53 GMT -5
Olympic Flame was introduced in 1976...by Renee Shepherd. It came from a selection of a bicolor that may or may not have been Big Rainbow or another one of the myriad of nearly identical bicolors. (She hasn't said what the 'parent' was...it could be just a rename of some other bicolor or a previously unknown, but yet again, extremely similar to a bunch of others, one.)
Renee was asked by the USOC to not use the name Olympic Flame so she changed it to Old Flame (which should be the 'proper' name, as that is what the person releasing it has named it). Flame is not Hillbilly, but Old Flame, shortened...or at least should be.
And to confuse things even more, Renee is now offering a mix called Rainbow's End in which she is equating Marvel Stripe with Old Flame...
Basically, the way I look at it, the bicolors that are so confused and have so many different names for what are probably very few actual varieties, that one or two should be enough to cover the group. Short of DNA analysis, no sense is going to be made of that group.
I'm trying to independently confirm what I've listed above.
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Post by paquebot on Nov 28, 2009 19:23:03 GMT -5
Flame and Old Flame are listed as separate varieties in most tomato databases with Flame reported as an old WV heirloom. According to that, Old Flame would be the only one of the two directly connected to Olympic Flame. It is still being offered as Old Flame by seed companies in both US and Canada.
Martin
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Post by mjc on Nov 28, 2009 21:01:40 GMT -5
Flame is often tied to Hillbilly, but is not...Hillbilly is a WV variety, Flame was linked to it at some point.
I'll see if Renee responds to my request for info...
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 29, 2009 0:12:59 GMT -5
Mybighair- could you tell me what actual words you have to type in the search section of the Dutch/German ?? seed bank website to bring up a list of tomatoes etc, I tried yesterday to bring up a list of tomatoes and could not get the right section for some reason after joining and logging in to the website.  |
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Post by mybighair on Nov 29, 2009 5:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by pugs on Nov 29, 2009 23:30:56 GMT -5
Thanks Martin and everyone for the info on Olympic Flame. I don't remember where I read it on line, but the source seemed to be reputable to my recollection, but it said that Olympic Flame wasn't the same as Big Rainbow and in fact they thought that O. F. tasted better. I'll got look for Old Flame now.
Pugs
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Post by mjc on Dec 1, 2009 12:55:44 GMT -5
Ok, got a reply back from Renee's Garden...
So the Olympic Flame name change is accurate...and it went to Old Flame (that's what Renee's Garden/Shepherd's Seeds sold it as). The original that it was selected from is unknown.
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Post by Alan on Dec 8, 2009 18:42:31 GMT -5
Got my Nichols garden catalog yesterday, adding a few things to my must have list:
Stevia sweetest sixteen selection
Sweet Meat Oregon Homestead Selection
A purple sunflower that I can't remember the name of off of the top of my head
White Sage
and a number of nice dark red/purple lettuce varieties.
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Post by bunkie on Dec 9, 2009 14:36:52 GMT -5
alan, just a note... we bought a sweet sixteen stevia plant from Nichols several years ago and it's still in a pot in my kitchen window today, (and we've tried a couple other varieties)...but...it (they all ) does have a bit of an aftertaste. last spring, we ordered a 'crazy sweet' stevia plant from richters and it is the best stevia we've ever had. the only one with no aftertaste at all, just pure sweetness.
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Post by plantsnobin on Dec 9, 2009 17:36:42 GMT -5
Thanks for that info Bunkie, I was planning to order the sweet sixteen too. Wasn't sure if the Richter's crazy sweet was as good as they claimed, nice to know of someone who has actually used it. I'll have to look through the Richters website to see if they have something I can't live without. I've never ordered from them before, I have read some bad reviews about their shipping to the US, but it might be worth a try.
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Post by Alan on Dec 10, 2009 18:25:49 GMT -5
Thanks Bunkie, much appreciated.
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Post by bunkie on Dec 16, 2009 11:58:19 GMT -5
karen, right about Richters. we actually ordered 3 plants. they arrived looking very sickly, from travel i think...not sure if they quarentine them. anyway. two survived and one didn't. i tried to call for a replacement with no luck. i can't remember the problem right now. then i had a lot of difficulty with the complaint email not going through, so i gave up. the plants that did survive are doing really well. only problem is they are spendy and i don't like losing any...
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