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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 20, 2009 2:00:10 GMT -5
a new strange cabbage has appeared in the (Real seeds) catalogue, called (the Asturian tree cabbage) and lists it as a Spanish Heirloom,
Asturian- where the hell is Asturia,
The cabbage is described as growing very much like kale with enormous leaves that you pick a few at a time and this keeps on going for up to two years or more, sounds interesting-anyone know anything more about it.
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Post by grungy on Nov 20, 2009 2:31:33 GMT -5
Sounds like "walking stick kale" or that family of brassicas.
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Post by mjc on Nov 20, 2009 3:20:43 GMT -5
Asturia is on the northern coast of Spain, it used to be its own kingdom in the Middle Ages...so, I guess that is why it is a Spanish heirloom.
Is it in the print catalog? Because I didn't see it on their website...
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Post by mybighair on Nov 20, 2009 5:25:37 GMT -5
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Post by Alan on Nov 20, 2009 16:49:53 GMT -5
Yep, essentially a "marrowstem" kale.
I have some seed I'm increasing via Dr. Kapuler.
Supposed to be a fantastic livestock feed as well.
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Post by ottawagardener on Nov 20, 2009 17:15:56 GMT -5
I was stopped by the description of this cabbage too. An HG member gave me seeds for something similar looking called Red Cavalier Kale with absolutely massive bluish leaves.
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Post by mjc on Nov 20, 2009 18:47:28 GMT -5
Most of those I've seen have been described as kales, not cabbages...I wonder what group it is really in.
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Post by happyskunk on Nov 20, 2009 22:14:52 GMT -5
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 21, 2009 0:25:06 GMT -5
happyskunk- that was a massive kale or giant cabbage, I couldn't resist sneaking a look at their tomato section too-quite interesting.
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Post by grunt on Nov 21, 2009 2:12:59 GMT -5
It is very possibly the same variety. It is listed at Jardicentro as a couves variety, which means it will be milder tasting and less gas producing than regular cabbages. Google "Caldo Verde" for a good way to utilize it. You may have a bit of a problem getting it to reach the 3 M mark, unless you can give it protection for the winter. It will probably survive the winter there, but you may lose the bulk of the main stem over the winter. I'm located just across the border, north of you.
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Post by ottawagardener on Nov 21, 2009 9:15:38 GMT -5
I was thinking of growing the kind of 'kale' against a wall and wrapping it for the winter to see if I could save it. Not sure it's worth the trouble... heck, sure it is. I've seen them in flower and they are really neat.
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Post by michaeljohnson on Nov 22, 2009 1:47:37 GMT -5
Less gas producing-that sounds interesting, and will save me lot's of embarrassment and excuses-especially in lifts  Marrowstem Kale- why marrowstem does it mean-like bone marrow or something similar. You can actually get brussel sprout plants to grow to two metres high or more-a lot of people don't realise this, but if you plant them in july rather than later as normal, they continue to grow to six foot or more by the end-try it and see-using standard normal varieties, rather than earlies or compact varieties. |
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Post by Alan on Nov 24, 2009 21:08:47 GMT -5
I think it was called marrowstem because of it's stalk properties.
According to Alan Kapuler (from what I can recall) the stalk is used in soups, much like a soup bone.
For livestock feed it is nearly unparallelled according to what I have read. Some farm seed companies still offer seed of a few varieties for silliage or grazing.
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