peapod
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Zone 4, acidic soil, and sandy loam that I have worked on for 4 years. Fixing the bad stuff.
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Post by peapod on Nov 21, 2009 23:15:42 GMT -5
Hey all ~
I got one of my favorite catalogs in the mail today For 2010 from One Green world. Early I think but hey I'm not complaining. I really like the company myself and have ordered from them over the years. Here is my question.
I called them today and asked about their sea berry tree/ bush to see if the bush can handle the temps here in Mn. They seemed to believe that they would handle the temps but were not sure of the high winds we get here on the prairie.
There would be little protection from the wind and would be amongst other fruit bearing trees.
I want to order between 10-50 plants to start. if thats to many let me know or not enough... they are spendy but I know lots of ways to sell them... and eat the berries
Peapod
Any ideas.
You all are the geniuses...
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Post by plantsnobin on Nov 22, 2009 10:39:08 GMT -5
I too have ordered from One Green World. I do think they are ridiculously expensive for some of the stuff they sell. I haven't tried the Sea Berry, though I have been tempted. It just looks like something that could start self seeding like crazy around here so I have been afraid to try it. Have you tasted the berries yourself yet? It would be great if these companies sold the FRUIT to you first, to see if you like the taste of something before you waste time and money on something you end up not liking. I know I was disappointed this year to taste a fresh fig. Here I have been looking forward to fruit from my plant, never having tried a fresh one. Live and learn I guess, but if anyone local wants to come pick up a Chicago Hardy fig plant, stop by.
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Post by castanea on Nov 22, 2009 14:30:28 GMT -5
They grow them in Canadian prairie areas where winds are high and temperatures are low. They can handle temperatures down to 40 below zero, possibly lower.
The taste is excellent. The only problem is that they are quite tart like cranberries and some type of sweetener is definitely required. I am aware that OGW says they now have varieties that are "sweet", but I'm not sure if they are really sweet or just sweet in comparison to the normal berries.
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Post by ottawagardener on Nov 22, 2009 19:40:08 GMT -5
I am interested in this but I hear that they taste best if you freeze them before use and are commonly combined with other berries/fruits for a better flavour. They are supposed to be quite healthy. Like Castanea, I get the sense that cold is not so much a problem (unless you live really nort) but that they do well in adverse conditions with poor soil - they fix nitrogen. They also will handle some salt from what I've read. My suspicion is that they wouldn't like wet conditions. Also, you need a plant of each sex to get fruit. I was recently researching this plant so here's some links: www.tc-biodiversity.org/sample-buckthorn.pdfwww.saskfruit.com/studentwebsites/Seabuckthorn%20Widdup/grower/index.html |
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Post by silverseeds on Nov 22, 2009 19:58:31 GMT -5
You got my ears perked up with that last post... Now I think Id like to try them.... anyone know where to get seed?
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peapod
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Post by peapod on Dec 3, 2009 19:13:41 GMT -5
Ottawa, I had the opprotunity to taste some of the berries this past summer. You are right. They are kind of like some nighshades such as chichiquelite huckleberry. They need a bit of help before consumed. I looked at the links you provided and thanks for that. My belief is that with enough sugar and or butter just about anything will taste decent if not good. I just wish One Green World did not have such horrifying prices. I guess one pays for what they get?  Maybe. I was wondering the other day if they were grafted with a blueberry what they would taste like. I dont have the energy to do that but it was a thought. Silverseeds if I order some of them rest assure I'll make tons of jams butters and juice from the berries and if you would like I can send some to you! |
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Post by plantsnobin on Dec 4, 2009 7:57:09 GMT -5
I haven't got the 2010 catalog yet, but I went through the 2009 and picked out everything me heart would desire, not to actually place the order of course, but just to see how much it would cost if I really did get everything I wanted. It came to $1695. I certainly don't have that to spend, but I was thinking that overall, that really wasn't too bad. If 2 or 3 or 4 families got together to place an order and then propagated from those plants to share, everyone could have tons of diversity for a reasonable price.
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Post by castanea on Dec 4, 2009 22:37:52 GMT -5
You got my ears perked up with that last post... Now I think Id like to try them.... anyone know where to get seed? A few years back I embarked on a search for seed from seedlings from widely varying regions of the world, and had some success. I know I still have some somewhere, and generally I am a big promoter of planting seedlings, but here's the problem with many sea buckthorn seedlings: Thorns, small fruit, excessive tartness, and/or slow growth. It would be much better to find someone who has the good cultivars, and get seed from them. Unfortunately I don't know anyone growing the good cultivars who has fruit yet. |
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Post by silverseeds on Dec 5, 2009 1:41:04 GMT -5
You got my ears perked up with that last post... Now I think Id like to try them.... anyone know where to get seed? A few years back I embarked on a search for seed from seedlings from widely varying regions of the world, and had some success. I know I still have some somewhere, and generally I am a big promoter of planting seedlings, but here's the problem with many sea buckthorn seedlings: Thorns, small fruit, excessive tartness, and/or slow growth. It would be much better to find someone who has the good cultivars, and get seed from them. Unfortunately I don't know anyone growing the good cultivars who has fruit yet. If you find them Id like to trade for some if you want.... If you have types from varying places Im more likely to get some which like my area.... could be the ones which didnt grow well for you would be okay here. I dont mind thorns actually. Might prove to be animal resistant, so it would be easier for me to grow..... Id like to get the ones known as better though to, heck maybe I could breed them a bit over time. Im trying to grow all the edible types of things which could grow here on their own. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have a few already. Alot of possibles, and alot of certainlies. but eventually Id love to have 1000 different types if they exist.... I have some mountain land. Its pretty dry here, and we have a pretty long winter at such elevations. With cool nights even on the hottest days in summer. Anything that is edible that will grow on its own I want to get. I know there has to be tons of things I havent heard about.... |
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Post by rockguy on Dec 5, 2009 20:40:10 GMT -5
JL Hudson has a lot of seeds for odd stuff, maybe try them for seeds?
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Post by LoreD on Dec 20, 2009 0:18:48 GMT -5
I was googling seaberry or sea buckthorn and companies are selling the oil for $25 per ounce plus shipping. It is used in face creams and they have juice. Natural medicines use it too. Might be able start a business.
LoreD
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Post by castanea on Dec 20, 2009 15:35:45 GMT -5
A few years back I embarked on a search for seed from seedlings from widely varying regions of the world, and had some success. I know I still have some somewhere, and generally I am a big promoter of planting seedlings, but here's the problem with many sea buckthorn seedlings: Thorns, small fruit, excessive tartness, and/or slow growth. It would be much better to find someone who has the good cultivars, and get seed from them. Unfortunately I don't know anyone growing the good cultivars who has fruit yet. If you find them Id like to trade for some if you want.... If you have types from varying places Im more likely to get some which like my area.... could be the ones which didnt grow well for you would be okay here. I dont mind thorns actually. Might prove to be animal resistant, so it would be easier for me to grow..... Id like to get the ones known as better though to, heck maybe I could breed them a bit over time. Im trying to grow all the edible types of things which could grow here on their own. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have a few already. Alot of possibles, and alot of certainlies. but eventually Id love to have 1000 different types if they exist.... I have some mountain land. Its pretty dry here, and we have a pretty long winter at such elevations. With cool nights even on the hottest days in summer. Anything that is edible that will grow on its own I want to get. I know there has to be tons of things I havent heard about.... The way I see it is is that ALL sea buckthorn would do well in your area. So there's no reason to plant inferior seedlings. They tolerate drought, summer heat and winter cold. They do need winter chilling which you have. They do not tolerate shade. The seed can usually found cheap on ebay. Right now someone is selling 50 seed for $3. FW Schumacher seed has an ounce for $5.70. Sheffield's seed has an ounce for $7.76 or a packet for $2.95. Their seed source is China so I suspect you are getting seed from really random seedlings. You can also get a packet from Sand Mountain Herbs. Before I bought any though, I would want to know where the seed came from. |
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Post by sandbar on Jan 8, 2010 22:19:50 GMT -5
I just tried their website (http://www.onegreenworld.com) and their server is down? Or, do they not have a website?
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Post by plantsnobin on Jan 9, 2010 8:54:10 GMT -5
I just checked it and it was working ok right now.
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Post by wolfcub on Jan 20, 2010 21:07:22 GMT -5
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Maybe.