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Post by Alan on Sept 16, 2007 20:08:05 GMT -5
Hey guys, my trade list is effectively the Hip-Gnosis Seed Co/BRSIP list of available seed/germplasm, anything on that list goes up for trade for anything on this list, and I always throw in an extra or two!
What I am looking for:
Lycopersicon Chesmanii - Very High Priority!
Eggplants - hybrid seed is also welcom including F2 and F3 seed lines. Only have Black Beauty, looking for diversity of all types!
Hot Peppers - Anything and Everything other than common types, like Red Chile, Hung Wax, Jalapeno, EXT. Hybrids and F2, F3 Seed also welcome
Sweet Peppers - Anything and Everything other than common types like Cal. Wonder, Hung Wax, Bannana. Hybrids and F2, F3 Seed also welcome
Winter Squash - Anything and Everything interesting and rare. Hybrids and F2, F3 Seed also welcome. Acorn of different colors, ornamental edible type pumpkins, hubbards, cheese pumpkins, buttercup types, bannana types, all types!
Cole Crops - Anything unusual or Rare
I am also looking for this book, which I will trade one sample of each of everything on my list of available seed for:
The Compleat Squash: A Passionate Grower's Guide to Pumpkins, Squashes, and Gourds (Hardcover)
by Amy Goldman (Author), Victor Schrager (Photographer)
I have her book on melons and I love it, I would dearly love to have this companion piece.
-Alan
Carrotts - Colored Types
Leaf Lettuce - Anything other than Sallad Bowl, Oak Leaf, Black Seeded Simpson
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Sept 16, 2007 22:02:29 GMT -5
Alan, I have some Diamond eggplant seeds. It's a small, early season eggplant originally from the Ukraine. It's about the same size as the oriental types. It was definitely the first one to produce for me this year. Unfortunately, I grew it in a container that was too small and it only produced one eggplant until I removed that one for seed. Now it's trying to produce another, 2 months later. Sounds like I should have just not bothered saving the seed, right?? But I know that the pot wasn't large enough. My other eggplant varieties that are in larger containers are going great guns!! But I kept all the seed from that one fruit and I would gladly share some with you. I'll add it to the package we talked about earlier.  |
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Post by johno on Sept 16, 2007 22:29:23 GMT -5
I have a package I'm sending you tomorrow. Cheeseman's tomato isn't included, but I might be able to manage that before spring '08.
I sent the last of my seeds to a colorful charater last winter, in return for some equally rare goodies. I actually had a couple of Cheeseman's fruits setting on my worktable by the garden last fall, but they disappeared (I bet it was that stinkin' gopher, now that I think about it...) Anyway, she says she loved the Cheeseman's especially for its simple beauty - myself, I actually like eating them... She's supposed to have me covered on fresh Lycopersicon cheesemanii seeds this fall, and I'll share if you still need them when that happens.
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Post by johno on Sept 16, 2007 22:31:40 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm planning to collect seeds from my past-their-prime Litada de Gandia eggplants. If that works out for me, I'll send you some of those, too. Stunning, productive, and delicious!
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Post by johno on Sept 16, 2007 22:44:06 GMT -5
One other thing... Blue sent me some Eat All squash. I collected three (bad year...) and they all had a different appearance. I ate one - it was rather good, one spontaneously imploded, leaving little save a greasy spot in my nice wooden basket (grr!) but the third one looks to be keeping well. It is orange, with the general appearance of a small, tall pumpkin. The others were bicolor or green.
I don't remember, but I think it's a hybrid - I can look it up sometime. Supposedly the seeds are good to eat as well as the flesh - hence the name. I'll try to remember to save seeds from the last one to add to your germplasm...
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Sept 17, 2007 7:55:17 GMT -5
Johno,
Thanks for letting me know about the Eat All squash. Flowerpower be-ware for next year. It seems that these have been visited by aliens, lol.
I didn't grow them. I just bought the seed to send to Johno and FP so I'm in the dark about this.
Johno, the catalogue for the company that I purchased those seeds from clearly states that "the seeds we offer are produced organically, are open-pollinated, and are non-hybrid varieties". But possible that it was a dehybridization project for the grower?
Would you still have the package for them? I don't know if she puts lot #'s on her packages. It's only a small company. But I'm sure she would like to know of the obvious problem with this years seeds. TY.
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2007 9:30:18 GMT -5
Wow, thanks blue and Johno, I realy greatly appreciate it! As soon as I get your package Johno, I'll be sending you out a nice package! Definetly keep me updated on the Cheesemanii toatoe seeds as I am very interested int them. Definetly interested in that squash too, i've never grown a snackseed variety before, Ken Ettlinger currently has a "rambling" up about some snackseed varieties he is playing with. Thanks so much guys, look forward to playing with this stuff next spring/maybe this winter!
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Post by johno on Sept 17, 2007 12:58:31 GMT -5
I've been researching Eat All squash this morning in light of the mystery. I haven't found what species it is, but I did piece together that it is a new OP variety (read: "dehybridization project.") I even found one site with a picture that was indeed worth a thousand words - it showed a green pumpkin with a big orange spot. I believe various combinations of green and orange, ranging from all green to all orange, are normal for this variety. This multi - color expression is not a problem, it's just due to the fat mix of genes. I consider that a good thing. The other good thing is that Eat All is one of the only edible seeded (or "naked seed") squashes that also has good-to-eat flesh!
I did find the package, but it isn't necessary to alert the source... I only have seven seeds left - plenty for me for next year, but I imagine Alan could use more than that...
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Post by jason on Sept 17, 2007 17:28:35 GMT -5
I have a thai dragon hybrid hot pepper plant I can save seeds from if you are interested.
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2007 22:38:56 GMT -5
Hey green grass, I'm definetly interested in that pepper, let me know what you would like in trade and PM me and we will work out something. Here is a link to Ken Ettlingers "Ramblings" about Snackseed or Naked seed Pumpkins, which all appear to be C. Pepo types according to his research, hope this helps you guys out: www.liseed.org/snackseed.html |
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 18, 2007 5:58:50 GMT -5
Eat-All Squash sounds very interesting. I just got them last week  , so I have soem I could send Alan. Blue, you kept a few right? Alan, I definitely have Lettuce seed for you- Tom Thumb, Forellenschluss, Rouge D'Hiver and Little Gem. Rocky Top Mix from BC was a nice mix also- lots of deep reds and bicolors. I'll send you some of that also. As soon as I harvest all the pumps and gourds, I'll post pics of them. I have been using saved seed for most of the small gourds for several yrs. They would be at least F3. I also have a ton of gourd seed from last yr left over. |
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Sept 18, 2007 7:35:23 GMT -5
not sure if I saved any? If I did, it was only 5 or 6 seeds. I grew a similar squash a few years ago and they were the absolute worst when it came to cleaning the seeds for eating. I said I'd never waste my time doing that again. But if I saved seed from the Eat All packet, I'll grow them next year and see if I can't sell them to some unsuspecting person who has never dealt with the agony of cleaning such a slimy stubborn squash.  |
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Post by Alan on Sept 18, 2007 21:00:58 GMT -5
Thanks flowerpower, I would love to try out those lettuces and grow them for seed, my lettuce collection is somewhat puny so anything to pump it up would be nice I exspecially like red types! I'm also interested in the gourds and pumpkins too. Just let me know what you would like in trade and send me your pm and i'll get some stuff out to you. -Alan |
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 19, 2007 6:18:30 GMT -5
Alan, sounds like a plan to me. Is Black Beauty Eggplant the one you would buy in the supermarket? Because whatever variety it is around here, it stinks. It's way too bulbous and seedy. They should be longer and skinnier. (That's how my Italian GM taught me to pick them out.) |
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Sept 19, 2007 7:43:11 GMT -5
Yep, Black Beauty. Those big bitter bulbous ones that the recipe books tell you to salt for an hour or more to take the bite out.
Wanna try some Diamond? I got a few seeds. Some set aside for Alan, but I could spare you a few. ;D
What does Growitalian sell for eggplant? I must go look.
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, so I have soem I could send Alan. Blue, you kept a few right? 