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Post by castanea on Jan 11, 2009 20:22:44 GMT -5
Does anyone know what this really is? Trader Joe's grocery sold it in the US two years ago. It tasted milder than most garlic. I planted a few cloves/bulbs. Only one came up and it grew very slowly for a couple of months before it died. sundaynitedinner.com/trader-joes-one-clove-per-head-garlic/ |
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Post by raymondo on Jan 12, 2009 5:00:27 GMT -5
Hard-neck garlic (at least I'm pretty sure it's the hard-necks) produce small bulbils instead of flowers. These little bulbs can be planted. A lot of the time, they will grow into what I know as garlic rounds, exactly like the one bulb garlic you describe. They have a milder flavour usually. If you plant these rounds, you will get a normal head of garlic. I grew 70 or so last year just for fun. I only got a few rounds. Mostly I got mini garlic heads!
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Post by stevil on Jan 12, 2009 5:33:23 GMT -5
Åke Truedsson, Swedish Garlic - guru told me that this is a special cultivar that is grown mainly in China in areas that don't experience cold winter temperatures. Under these conditions, this variety produces mainly single cloves. The seed cloves can be produced elsewhere where there is cold winter temperatures and the garlic bulbs divide normally. Åke gave me a few bulbs of this variety and I'm testing this by cultivating them in my greenhouse with a mulch to keep the frost off.
I've also tried growing shop bought single clove garlics and they just die. I'm told they are irradiated to stop them sprouting and give them a longer shop-life..
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Post by castanea on Jan 14, 2009 23:56:36 GMT -5
Thanks.
The Chinese also grow chestnuts that are perfectly round. They are from hybrid trees that generally won't survive in much of the colder areas of the US and Europe.
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Post by PatrickW on Jan 19, 2009 9:35:17 GMT -5
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Post by stevil on Jan 19, 2009 14:00:59 GMT -5
Interesting experiment - this actually kind of agrees with what Åke told me - i.e., the spring planted bulbs hadn't been cold during the winter.
I was also going to mention that I'd heard that harvesting the garlic before it matures tends to result in single cloved garlic the following year and I see that Søren also mentions this.
I also had an early variety - Sprint - which although both harvested late and planted in the autumn always gave single cloves. Single-cloved garlic isn't much use as you don't get any food - I ended up eating them anyway and don't now have any seed...
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Post by toad on Feb 20, 2009 16:55:39 GMT -5
This is just the problem with single clove garlic - great in the kitchen, but you eat your planting stock. That is ofcourse unless you make a clever scheme for your culture, growing both normal and single cloves every year, using a surplus to grow single cloves all to go in the kitchen. I find it more convenient to grow garlics with huge cloves, like in good strains of porcelains and marbled purple stripes.
Anyway I'm curious, so I will be growing these single cloves Patrick linked to.
I'm just trying Sprint for the first time. Interesting to read how it behaves up in Norway.
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Post by castanea on Mar 8, 2009 1:23:29 GMT -5
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Post by orflo on Aug 17, 2010 5:31:15 GMT -5
During spring, I received a garlic variety under the name 'eastern garlic'. Over here in Europe eastern mostly implicates Asian, so my guess is that this is some sort of an Asian garlic. I planted them out, and did get a small harvest (I didn't receive a lot),big bulbs with very small side bulbs attached to them (see picture). I replanted all of them in order to have a biiger harvest next year. The funny thing about this is that this garlic looks exactly like a wild garlic from Corsica (France), pictured in a magazine I have lying here. You can imagine I do have some questions about this... ;D ;D ;D Can this also be a wild version, is that 'wild Corsican variety' really wild, and so on...  |
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Post by stevil on Aug 21, 2010 3:27:04 GMT -5
Frank: Looks very much like a form of Allium ampeloprasum (they typically have one large bulb and small daughter bulbs) - Elephant Garlic and Babington's Leek are well known cultivated forms.
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Post by raymondo on Aug 27, 2010 5:28:55 GMT -5
What do you get from the small daughter bulbs? Does it give you a full-sized bulb, or do you have to wait two years?
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Post by paquebot on Aug 28, 2010 1:23:19 GMT -5
What do you get from the small daughter bulbs? Does it give you a full-sized bulb, or do you have to wait two years? Those elephant garlic "daughter" bulbs are officially called corms. When planted back, they will produce an undivided round. I've found them up to almost 3 inches across after one year. When those rounds are planted back, very large divided bulbs are the result. They actually may be considered a weed at time since the corms may be missed at harvest and then the plants show up as volunteers. Martin |
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Post by trixtrax on Nov 13, 2010 0:55:28 GMT -5
I received one of these from a friend who said they were some type of divider onion, he did not know what species. This thread explains it all, thank you everyone. They have been slow to reproduce, but each year a have a few more. Hope to be able to grow quantity some day. Mine are about the size of a fist. They have leek foliage and I have never seen them flower. Has anyone seen these flower?
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