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Post by stevil on Dec 5, 2008 15:51:50 GMT -5
Anyone have any experience with this one? It's sold under this name in the UK anyway, but I've never seen it - seems to be a non-flowering/non-topsetting bunching onion.
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Post by canadamike on Dec 5, 2008 16:26:49 GMT -5
I never heard of ''perutile'', but the latin roots of the word suggest it behaves like a fistulosum. It could be a true cepa or simply one of the cepa/fistulosum hybrids. Taxonomy tends to go in all directions in that case. We might know it under another name here. Looks like a cepa agregatum without the agregation of bulbils to me (but maybe seeds), I mean this is what the name suggests.
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 8, 2008 18:41:28 GMT -5
It's listed in the book I'm reading as A. cepa which means... not much... but I thought I'd mention it.
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Post by paquebot on Dec 12, 2008 21:00:01 GMT -5
A. cepa perutile is the Welsh onion. Search for it under that name. Although it is a root multiplier, its growth is more like chives and it will blossom and produce seeds.
The only root multiplier that I have not known to produce seeds is I'Itoi, of which I have about 20 extra bulbs right now. I'll gift them to the first person who can give them a home, even if it's in Norway.
Martin
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Post by canadamike on Dec 12, 2008 22:26:16 GMT -5
Would Canada be good for you Martin? By the way, I don't know if you have the Iraqui perpetual leek Kurrat, but I just ordered lots of seeds to share here. I suspect Frank must have it. You could send me only some or else, I could grow it to ship all over after....
What are the news on your wife's front??? I mean, after the good ones we already got...
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Post by orflo on Dec 13, 2008 0:08:10 GMT -5
No, I don't have it..... So, if you have too much (and send a bit of garden space as well... ;D ;D ;D)
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 13, 2008 0:55:10 GMT -5
Frank, if you have some extra garden space left over after mike sends you some, or hey, Mike gotta any extra space? I could send you a couple gardening dreams and ideas.
Telsing (who is also interested in Kurrat - gotta a whole lot of pink blush savoy cabbage seeds to trade / give away)
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Post by orflo on Dec 13, 2008 2:10:22 GMT -5
Telsing,
I'm always interested in dreams... ;D
and the savoy cabbage...
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Post by canadamike on Dec 13, 2008 2:29:02 GMT -5
Frank, am I missin something here??  You grow dreams too?  And you are telling me I will have an allium that you don't have?  People!! ALERT!! ALERT!! The real Frank has been abducted by aliens and has been replaced by a bad clone!!!! The end of the world is coming... but you'll have your kurrat if you promise me to take care of the real one... ;D |
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Post by orflo on Dec 13, 2008 7:51:26 GMT -5
Feel free to call me olfro or knarf whenever you're not sure you have the right person...To be honest, I don't have that much alliums, 20, maybe 30 but that's it folks. Stephen 'stevil' has got lots more But he hasn't got a clone, has he??? |
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Post by stevil on Dec 13, 2008 14:31:32 GMT -5
The only root multiplier that I have not known to produce seeds is I'Itoi, of which I have about 20 extra bulbs right now. I'll gift them to the first person who can give them a home, even if it's in Norway. Martin I must log in more often, missing your kind offer, Martin.... Now, I'll have to start begging again...... A. cepa perutile is the Welsh onion. Search for it under that name. Although it is a root multiplier, its growth is more like chives and it will blossom and produce seeds. Martin Perhaps it's called Welsh Onion by some, but Welsh Onion is normally Allium fistulosum. Can I ask where you have seen it called Welsh Onion? It is described as a perennial form of Allium cepa that rarely flowers by PFAF, but as pointed out it could well be a cepa - fistulosum cross.... |
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Post by stevil on Dec 13, 2008 15:54:47 GMT -5
I've been trying to get Kurrat since I read a glowing description of it in Swedish Author Lena Israelssons book "Jordens täppor" (literally translates as the World's Vegetable Patches) which came out in 2002. She calls it Sirim (the Kurdish name). I got it once through SSE, but the seed didn't germinate and when I got the packet it said Allium kurrat (Chinese Chives) - so I'm not convinced it was the real thing anyway. I finally got some seed from a Swedish gardening friend last winter and I'm now overwintering a few small plants, but we're now having the coldest December weather for many years (stayed at about -15C all day today) and it hasn't been above zero for about 2 weeks, so I hope they make it (I have now covered the plants to protect them). These seed came from Turkish Kurdistan. I'm interested in another source though, so if any seed should be left over.....(do you know where this seed originated?) It was like a dream or many dreams visiting Orflo's garden in the summer, I can tell you. In his other life, I believe he is the BFG in the Roald Dahl novel - the BFG catches dreams. BFG stands for "Belgian Frank the Gardener"  |
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Post by PatrickW on Dec 13, 2008 16:06:09 GMT -5
I think I'm growing kurrat now. I made a post about it here: www.patnsteph.net/weblog/?p=343If anyone manages to get some going in their garden, it would be interesting to compare with what I have. It didn't produce any seeds last year. Maybe I'll get some seeds this year, or I can probably get some more from my fellow gardener, if anyone wants to try. |
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 13, 2008 22:01:57 GMT -5
I'd be happy to send you an envelope with some cabbage seeds wrapped in gardening dreams for the alien on the board.
I think I have your addy, but I'll check.
Telsing.
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 13, 2008 22:03:59 GMT -5
Stephen: We've been in the deep freeze over here too. -15 / -20 for a long period where usually we'd be around -5 or so.
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You grow dreams too? 
