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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 18, 2010 10:08:09 GMT -5
Cavalierly carrying on. You can see the frost damage on the leaves. It is undergoing a winter test which I had thought it had failed so I was surprised to see it looking so perky after the cold snap had broken. Winter, hower, is only half way over.   In its young and heady summer days, with some magenta spreen (Chenopodium giganteum).  |
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Post by extremegardener on Jan 18, 2010 16:50:18 GMT -5
When did you sow these OG, and where did you get the seed?
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 18, 2010 18:27:18 GMT -5
I wintersowed them in March, I think. The seed was from a member of HG. I should have some left and can spare a small amount if you would like to try them.
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Post by raymondo on Mar 12, 2010 4:56:25 GMT -5
Is Red Cavalier a napus kale? It looks wonderful.
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Post by hiven on Mar 12, 2010 5:05:23 GMT -5
It is a B Oleracea Acephala, Raymondo.
The leaves taste sweeter during winter, but it has a hint of mild bitterness. From all kales I have grown and eaten, this is not exacly a tasty type, but since it survived our cold winter, attractive looking and less troubled by cabbage root fly, I will continue to grow some.
Mine grow a bit over 1 meter, some of them are lying on their side due to heavy snow cover.
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Post by canadamike on Mar 12, 2010 5:06:11 GMT -5
No Raymondo, it is ''le chou cavalier'' that you probably saw while living in France. it is a perennial, I have some in the garden, I'll see if they stood the winter once the snow is gone...
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Post by hiven on Mar 12, 2010 5:07:44 GMT -5
Telsing, the younger one (around 1') seems to managed cold winter much better then those grown over 1 meter tall.
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Post by hiven on Mar 12, 2010 5:09:40 GMT -5
Michel, it is said to be a short live perennial, but some said it is a biennial  No Raymondo, it is ''le chou cavalier'' that you probably saw while living in France. it is a perennial, I have some in the garden, I'll see if they stood the winter once the snow is gone... |
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Post by raymondo on Mar 12, 2010 5:30:20 GMT -5
Thanks hiven and Michel.
I saw bunches of kale in the late winter/early spring markets in Lyon, where I spent most of my time, but not in Aix-en-Provence. I can't remember now what they looked like, damn lousy memory. I never bought any because they always had plenty of cabbages which were so much sweeter at that time of year.
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Post by ottawagardener on Mar 12, 2010 8:33:21 GMT -5
Hiven: I noticed the same thing. I think because it was better protected from winter weather by its height. This would follow with all my brassicas - short kales do better here.
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Post by canadamike on Mar 12, 2010 8:42:14 GMT -5
Ray, in France it is most often see in the north, Pas de Calais,Brittany and Normandy , where a lot of french cabbages were created, proximity of England I suppose....
It is not to say we do not see them elsewhere, gardeners being traders and all, but southern France can grow cabbages 12 months a year, and not necessarily of the most cold resistant types...
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Post by trixtrax on Aug 20, 2013 23:59:47 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this kale the last year. Beautiful purple leaves and mild tender greens even late into flowering. I did a growout of seed on this and just finished processing from 21 plants. I found fairly good regeneration after flowering, so I would say it is probably going to limp on another season if I hadn't pulled them. Interestingly, one plant is growing without having flowered at all, but I think this may have to do with that plant having trouble overcoming being root bound. I will have to say that the perenniality is nowhere near that of the Purple Tree Collards x Daubenton grex I've been working with. I'll post some pictures of that soon.
From the plants, I've got about a 1/2pound of seed to share to whoever wants some. If you are interested just PM me and I will send you some seed. I would love to try any varieties you may have that might do well in the Pacific North West.
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Post by ottawagardener on Sept 2, 2013 21:31:37 GMT -5
Trixtrax, I'd be interested in trying. PM me and I'll see what I have in my stash to send you if you're interested.
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