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Post by paquebot on Jan 21, 2010 17:26:51 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a source for Krupke beans? They are the red sister to the yellow Wâldbeantsje bean. These are apparently common in Friesland. I have the yellow one. Wâldbeantsjes are almost canary yellow when freshly harvested and fade to a yellowish gray with age. Both are used as dry beans.
Martin
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Post by pugs on Jan 21, 2010 20:09:02 GMT -5
I've never heard of them Martin (but then there are books filled with things I've never heard of!). Now I'm off to look for pictures.
You find the most interesting things to post about.
Pugs
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Post by paquebot on Jan 21, 2010 21:58:46 GMT -5
Well, we do have several members here from the Netherlands but those beans seem to have a very small area around Leeuwarden where they are grown. In order to keep them pure, yellow would be grown one year and red the next. I was able to grow the yellow one this past year by way of a Canadian gardener who obtained them on a visit to her family in Friesland. I've been right in the area where they were grown but that was 1990 and I wasn't looking for beans at the time.
Martin
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Post by PatrickW on Jan 22, 2010 5:36:54 GMT -5
I've never heard of either variety, and the most likely Dutch seed company to carry this kind of thing has the yellow one but as far as I can tell not the red one: www.vreeken.nl (click on groente en fruitzaden, then on bonen/beans) Note that Fries is another language, and all the listings on this site are in Dutch and occasionally English. The yellow one is called 'Friese Gele Woud' in Dutch. Krupke I think is a fairly common Fries persons name, so it's possible the bean has another Dutch name. Do you recognize any of the pictures? If you find anything interesting, let me know and I'll order and send it to you. I don't know of any Fries seed companies, but if you can give me some clue where the seeds may have come from, I can contact some of my friends up there and ask around. Hopefully you can narrow it down a bit from 'near Leeuwarden', as this includes most of Friesland which is not that big. In terms of growing them separate every year, this is a European/American thing. I don't know why, but most Americans can grow beans side by side and never have an issue with crosses, but Europeans seem to have different insects or something, and bean crosses are more common here. I generally don't isolate my beans, and I do see the occasional cross, but I wouldn't consider it a problem particularly. |
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Post by paquebot on Jan 22, 2010 14:28:20 GMT -5
They appear only to be found in the NW spur of the Trynwâlden. You will find both mentioned in an interview with Johan Ebbers at www.dewouden.com/index.php?page=actueel Apparently he was down to growing them only on 150 square meters in 2007. On another site there was a note about the Giele Wâldbeantsjes being available at a special gathering and 67 kilograms were sold so the "Yellow Forest Bean" is not exactly in great adundance. I only received enough for a double row about 7' long and will definitely be increasing that this year. Martin |
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Post by PatrickW on Jan 22, 2010 15:32:38 GMT -5
Okay, I found them. They are really called reade krobbe (Fries) or rode krobbe (Dutch), and their nickname is krûpke (Fries). This guy here www.levenvanhetland.nl/groenterassen.htm offers them for sale on his website, so I'll send him an email and ask him about them. I have some other things to talk about because he is obviously growing some things from my garden, so we must have some friends in common... I notice he's also 'borrowed' some pictures from my website (he's allowed to do this, they are Creative Commons). Before I get in touch, is there anything else you want from his website? Does anyone else want anything? |
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Post by paquebot on Jan 22, 2010 16:16:05 GMT -5
Patrick, you found them and now we all know that they do exist! The striking part about the yellow one is the yellow. When I got them, they were a year or so old and a drab grayish-tan color. Quite a surprise when I went to thresh them out and found them to be an almost bright canary yellow. Even now they are yellowish-tan 4 months after harvest. For me, their red sister is all I wish to ask for.
Martin
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Post by PatrickW on Jan 23, 2010 9:31:29 GMT -5
Okay, he said he will send them to me on Monday, and I will pass them on to Martin and cff.
He also said he would have a look around the forum here, and might join!
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Post by pugs on Jan 23, 2010 10:44:33 GMT -5
Thank you Patrick and Martin!
In a few years Martin and cff will have these trading all over the place.
Pugs
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Post by paquebot on Jan 23, 2010 13:50:17 GMT -5
Thank you Patrick and Martin! In a few years Martin and cff will have these trading all over the place. Pugs I do have a quart of the yellow ones available along with 40-50 other bean varieties. I just don't "advertise" them all over the world like I do with tomatoes. Beans are always only on my Homesteading Today annual seed offer. Thus far at least 3 of those members requested Wâldbeantsjes and it was one of those who located the Dewouden site to further pinpoint where they were from. Martin |
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