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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 24, 2010 5:52:26 GMT -5
Well, I have finally been able to track this stuff down here and purchased a gallon a few days ago. Somehow I had the impression that this was a "good for everything" product, but the label mentions "acid loving plants". It was suggested for watering my nut tree rootings while rooting and I THINK it was also suggested for my grafted pears (I've been wrong before so my feelings won't be dented if I'm told I'm wrong again). I know that Michel (Canada Mike) is a familiar with using this as well.
So, just how crazy can I go with my fishy watering can?
What I have is made by "Fert-I-Lome". The recommended dilution is from 1 tablespoon to 2 tablespoons per gallon of water. Use every couple weeks during growing season.
I used 4 tablespoons in the 2 gallon sprinkling watercan and just lightly sprinkled the rootings, grafted trees, a pot of oregano, a pot of sage, and the sproutings which are a mixture of wildflowers, brassicas, onions, and tomatoes.
Am I now doomed to death or will my property become an overnight jungle? What will the neighbors think when the wind shifts?
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Post by mjc on Mar 24, 2010 6:26:22 GMT -5
Looks good so far...
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 24, 2010 8:34:56 GMT -5
Jo, what would your neighbours think if you used manure from a mammal? Besides, if you purchased Fish Emulsion, then it's probably been processed to keep the aroma to a minimum. We used to have two large (freshwater) aquariums and used the water on my houseplants. This meant that the aquariums didn't need a thorough cleaning as often, because they had small additions of water weekly. And, I had the lushest, healthiest looking houseplants I had ever seen. I think I had better hurry up and find a place to set up the aquarium we were given during the winter......I had forgotten that until I began typing this reply.  |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 24, 2010 8:50:39 GMT -5
Oh you have GOT to be joking Blue... this stuff has been processed to get RID of the smell?!?!?!?  Even my youngest, who tends to smell less than divine at the end of the day nearly fell off the porch when he took a whiff of the freshly opened bottle. Poor kid loves to smell stuff... every once in awhile it backfires on him and this was one of those times. ;D Have fun with your aquarium. That's a VERY interesting notion by the by. I'll be speaking to my hubby about it. I don't remember reading about the transplants and veg and stuff on my label MJC. I must have missed it. I'll have to read it again. Sounds like I'm off to a decent start though. |
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Post by cornishwoman on Mar 24, 2010 8:54:07 GMT -5
Jo I looked at my fish Emulsion but mine doesn't say any thing about acid loving plants,mine is 2-4-0.5. its mighty good stuff.I make my own watered down manure but I do like the fishie stuff for transplanting. Blue, I used to do the same with my fishie water from the aquariumhouse plants loved it,but my big orange fish passed on ,so it now sits empty.
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Post by mjc on Mar 24, 2010 10:11:32 GMT -5
It may be one of those labels you have to pull half way off and read the back to find the rest of the info...the info I posted was off the Feritlome website.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 24, 2010 11:50:12 GMT -5
Oh you have GOT to be joking Blue... this stuff has been processed to get RID of the smell?!?!?!? Even my youngest, who tends to smell less than divine at the end of the day nearly fell off the porch when he took a whiff of the freshly opened bottle. Poor kid loves to smell stuff... every once in awhile it backfires on him and this was one of those times. ;D Jo, I said "probably". Obviously, I was wrong, lol Just think, Your boy will have a major growth spurt now and be all shiny and healthy looking. Watch out for green sprouts under his armpits and behind his knees though. You might want to prune those because they sap the energy he needs for his main trunk. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 24, 2010 12:18:51 GMT -5
Oh you have GOT to be joking Blue... this stuff has been processed to get RID of the smell?!?!?!? Even my youngest, who tends to smell less than divine at the end of the day nearly fell off the porch when he took a whiff of the freshly opened bottle. Poor kid loves to smell stuff... every once in awhile it backfires on him and this was one of those times. ;D Jo, I said "probably". Obviously, I was wrong, lol Just think, Your boy will have a major growth spurt now and be all shiny and healthy looking. Watch out for green sprouts under his armpits and behind his knees though. You might want to prune those because they sap the energy he needs for his main trunk. Great Googly Moogly Blue! You've got me laughing so hard I'm crying woman! When I trim the sprouts, I can feed em to the chickens right? ;D |
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Post by mjc on Mar 24, 2010 12:49:20 GMT -5
That's only one possible reaction, Jo...
One of the other ones can be a bit more serious, especially if you or someone in your house happens to be allergic to cats. The poor child may become a 'cat magnet'...
And the final reaction, that I'm aware of, is that instead of green sprouts, look for scales. This may also be accompanied by an irresistible urge be in, near or around water. A very rare, but sometimes serious side effect, is that when exposed to water, fins and gills may appear. The only hope in cases such as this is to let the kid stay in the water until the effect wears off...or the bathroom is totally flooded.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 8, 2010 19:03:26 GMT -5
Do you guys realize how hard it is to not crack up every time I crack open that NASTY jug of fish poop? I'll be going along, as close to normal as I ever get... and I just start laughing! Y'all are great!
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Post by Alan on Apr 11, 2010 23:38:50 GMT -5
My fellow red worm raising friend Paul raises a couple of tanks of gold fish in his wormery to aid in "fortifying" his worm castings with nitrogen.
One of the downsides of vermicomposting is the lown NPK numbers, however paul found a way to up the nitrogen component.
He has, within his worm bins, a cut off plastic barrel with a pump to aerate everything and from time to time siphons off some of the dirty old fishtank water that he replaces with (I think) clean rain water in the tank. The water enters the barrel in the bin where paul then takes cellulose egg cartons and soaks them until they fall apart, the leftovers are then fed to the worms supplimenting the nitrogen of the finished castings. His are among the best I have personally seen and his management practices are fantastic. I have two fishtanks set up in my worm house but as of yet have not persued his method, though this winter it is in the plans.
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Post by canadamike on Apr 12, 2010 5:12:42 GMT -5
Jo, I do not use fish emulsion anymore. It is not always available here but in small containers, jacking up the price, and it smells really bad too lol. It also has a tendency to clog my sprayer.
I use a lot of seaweed though. And I came across a product that is new to the retail market but was available principally to the professional greenhouse growers and some more avant garde farmers.
It is a seaweed extract in thick liquid form, very concentrated that is extracted using a natural proprietary process. They buy their raw material from Acadian Sea Plants like all canadian seaweed companies but there is a huge difference in the product, which is green instead of brown, not having been treated with potasssium hydroxyde.
It smells like taking a walk by the seaside instead of that ''fishy'' sea smell of the other products.
I can tell you my orchids, indoor plants and grape cuttings love it bad.
I spoke with the son of the chemists that founded the company. Their marketing strategy was simple with the pros: they would go in greenhouses and ask to spray sick plants, then would come back later...
They will sponsor me this summer, I will get all their stuff for free and we are cooking a few new things to add nitrogen in the mix, we have to see what has to be done for the brew not to ferment in the bottles.
I will report later, at the end of summer, but it looks quite promising.
The company is called Agrilogix. Their website is shitty. The son is only now targeting the retail market, so it will take time. But keep an eye open...I feel they will end up in the US. They just signed a big contract with one of Canada's biggest hardware chains.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 12, 2010 6:12:33 GMT -5
I'm really liking the idea of some sort of water feature in the garden with fish to use as a watering source. We are still a few years away from doing any sort of project like that however. By the time we are ready, it may be time for us to move as well.
Michel, I was wondering, would you be interested in trading some of your seaweed mixture for some grapeseed oil? I have a source, Monterey Bay Spice Company, that offers it as a carrier oil for $42 per gallon. I'll be waiting to hear more of the company. I know that seaweed was historically used as a fertilizer in Ireland.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 12, 2010 7:47:29 GMT -5
Jo, how far are you from the Atlantic shore? Paintman had an Uncle on the seacoast of New Brunswick that used washed up seaweed as mulch in his garden. You could take the boys for a trip to the beach and bring home a bag of seaweed to feed your garden. Just make sure you don't bring home one of those bales that falls off ships in the middle of the night encased in black plastic. It's vegetable based too, but it's not grown in the sea |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Apr 12, 2010 13:52:03 GMT -5
Jo, how far are you from the Atlantic shore? Paintman had an Uncle on the seacoast of New Brunswick that used washed up seaweed as mulch in his garden. You could take the boys for a trip to the beach and bring home a bag of seaweed to feed your garden. Just make sure you don't bring home one of those bales that falls off ships in the middle of the night encased in black plastic. It's vegetable based too, but it's not grown in the sea We are 24.8 miles from our personal beach spot. We were there fishing yesterday. We try to check it out at least once a month. Interestingly, seaweed doesn't come ashore around here. Sure did back in California! You know, it took me about 4 hours to figure out the bales in black plastic!  Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Either way, it would land on my garden! |
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Even my youngest, who tends to smell less than divine at the end of the day nearly fell off the porch when he took a whiff of the freshly opened bottle. Poor kid loves to smell stuff... every once in awhile it backfires on him and this was one of those times. ;D
Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Either way, it would land on my garden!