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Post by ottawagardener on Aug 15, 2010 14:20:35 GMT -5
I was 'flipping' through Nature News online when I found this article about a berry repository in Russia under threat: www.nature.com/news/2010/100811/full/news.2010.400.htmland it reminded me that not only is it important that we keep seed/graft material alive but that we also incorporate old material into plants to maintain genetic potential / diversity. Anyhow, just glad that there are so many committed people, such as on Homegrown Goodness.
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Post by garnetmoth on Aug 16, 2010 9:38:55 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing. thats so sad. I hope they can get a stay to relocate the plants- It seems a bit extreme to say no where else in Russia is suitable, just probably not one site large enough in the exact same climate?
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Post by galina on Aug 16, 2010 17:03:15 GMT -5
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Post by wildseed57 on Aug 25, 2010 14:18:44 GMT -5
I wonder if we could get seeds or plant material from them, if they do close it down it would be a shame to lose such a resource for so many rare species. I think I will look and see how i might contact just in case they do decide to close it. George W.
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Post by mjc on Aug 25, 2010 14:37:26 GMT -5
Plant material is such a pain in the posterior to import into the US...seeds aren't much easier, but at least are doable.
Yes, it would be great if we could, but for quite a while they were not an easy source to get material from. They may have 'relaxed' a little under threat of imminent doom. It would be worth a shot, especially for some of the European members.
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Post by ottawagardener on Aug 25, 2010 14:44:20 GMT -5
I was thinking that European members might want to try and salvage some of these varieties.
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Post by Penny on Aug 26, 2010 5:54:45 GMT -5
Sad article, thanks for posting this Telsing.
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Post by garnetmoth on Aug 26, 2010 6:51:08 GMT -5
I went ahead and signed the change.org petition- I stated that I understand non-profit centers needing to be cut from the books, but consider selling it as a plant collection, or at least sell to the developer in parcels, encourage them to keep plantings in their design instead of demolishing all of them, and while parcels are being developed, allow the station workers to propagate what is left.... Will anything good come of this? Ill continue to hope.
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Post by wildseed57 on Aug 26, 2010 21:33:43 GMT -5
That was pretty much my thought, that some of the Euro-members might be able to get some plant material from them should they get closed down, I sure that with the right paper work some one could possibly gets seeds, but getting cuttings in would be a miracle as they would be stopped before they could get in. Its always sad when things like that happens, it seems that more and more its the big corporations that win out especially when there is huge amounts of money to be made. George W.
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Post by mjc on Aug 27, 2010 0:00:02 GMT -5
The seed is not the problem.
A little on the structure of the Russian genebank.
Pavlovsk is just one station out of 12. The seed accessions kept there are easily absorbed into the 11 other facilities. It's the plants themselves that are the problem.
A number of those accessions are unique to that collection (some may still be found in the wild, but many probably are no longer available from the original sources).
And that is the real problem. The V. I. R. is notoriously stingy with access to their accessions, so whether or not they will even honor non-institutional (as in other research stations) requests is the big question.
Maybe one good thing can come from this...maybe they will loosen up and allow freer access?
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