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Post by castanea on Aug 22, 2010 13:28:55 GMT -5
"Apple Farmer Uses Pigs Instead of Pesticides Who needs toxic chemicals when cute little piggies do the job? By Samantha Cleaver Jim Koan is doing something revolutionary on his Flushing, MI farm. Or, is he? Instead of using pesticides to rid his orchard of a pest, Koan is going old school and using pigs. Koan’s 120-acre apple farm in has been plagued by the Plum Curculio Beetle that lays its eggs in apples and makes the fruit drop too early from trees. He could have used frequent sprays of pesticides for years to get rid of the beetles, or he could use pigs. (He tried chickens and guineas, but they weren’t hard enough workers and the guineas were taken away by hawks. He contemplated sheep, too, but in the end hard-working pigs, too big for any hawk or coyote to steal, were the best bet.) Now he has a group of pigs who shuffle through the orchards when the apples infected with beetles start to fall. They eat the apples and the eggs that would have spelled disaster for next year’s crop, and clear the ground and eat weeds in the process. The pigs make short work of an apple orchard, eating every last contaminated apple. And, bonus: once the pigs have solved the beetle problem, Koan plans to sell them as organic pork. So, revolutionary or not, pigs are a refreshing idea." kjpermaculture.blogspot.com/2009/01/porkorchard-for-pest-free-fruit.html
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 22, 2010 14:03:33 GMT -5
whoa! I do believe it's time to do some piggy shopping.
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Post by ottawagardener on Aug 22, 2010 15:17:05 GMT -5
I love animal pest control. A pig eating windfalls sounds great. This year, the earwigs made short work of most of the coddling moth but then I had to shoo away the earwigs out of the apple core instead. On a positive note, I made a seriously delicious apple sauce.
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Post by castanea on Aug 22, 2010 22:28:42 GMT -5
whoa! I do believe it's time to do some piggy shopping. Sepp Holzer is also really big on using pigs. He says they are the best way to control wild blackberry patches. Of interest to you, he also says that the larger the property, the less work you have to do. I'm guessing this is because he can let a large property become naturalized more easily than a small property. You can't unleash a half dozen hogs on a small piece of land.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Aug 23, 2010 6:58:46 GMT -5
Yea, I'm thinking only one pig. We have taken a vow to eat no more pork and I wouldn't want a giant animal running around. But perhaps a small animal in a pig size version of a chicken tractor would be very useful. When it gets to large, we could sell it. The idea needs more thought.
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Post by johno on Aug 23, 2010 8:06:57 GMT -5
Yea, I'm thinking only one pig. We have taken a vow to eat no more pork and I wouldn't want a giant animal running around. But perhaps a small animal in a pig size version of a chicken tractor would be very useful. When it gets to large, we could sell it. The idea needs more thought. If you're not going to eat it and want a smaller animal, think about getting a pot-bellied pig. People actually keep them as pets.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Aug 23, 2010 8:33:20 GMT -5
Jo, Talk to Flowerpower about Potbellied pigs. She has had them for years. Standard varieties of pigs (Tamworths, Yorkies, Berkshires, etc) will have a weight gain of approximately 1.5 lbs Per Day. They do not stay small for long. What you buy as a 30-40-50 lb weaner pig is suddenly at 6 months, freezer-ready (200-350 lbs depending on diet and genetics). Other things to consider? Pigs dig, so a 'tractor' idea probably won't contain a piggie that wants to explore. Wooden A-Frame houses make good range shelters for pigs, within an area fenced off. Pigs can also chew if confined and become bored. Even a concrete floor isn't immune from a pig's destructive tendencies when they want out. But they are very intelligent and will stay within the confines of an electric fence. Once burned you don't have to tell them to stay inside the line. We used pigs on the farm to weed the garden once. We couldn't get them out of the garden once they were done because they were soooo afraid of the electric fencing that we were days trying to cajole them out and back to the barn. We always fed them fallen apples in season. We ranged the turkeys in the field under the apple trees to help with pest control and cleanup. But I collected the fallen apples and fed them to the hogs as treats for as long as they were available. Another thought. Pigs are very social animals. Having one pig is IMO, just asking for trouble. They need companionship, preferably of their own kind. Note: Chickens do not make good companions for pigs. Pigs are Omnivores with large teeth
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Post by mjc on Aug 23, 2010 8:39:10 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a 'pig sized chicken tractor'...pigs can substitute for a 'real' tractor all by themselves.
And if you don't want to eat pork, then a mixed flock of meat type chickens, guineas and geese will do a great job at orchard clean up...they just won't take care of the 'heavy' weeds like brambles, but running a goat or two (around mature trees only) in the orchard before and after the birds will.
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Post by plantsnobin on Aug 23, 2010 8:58:42 GMT -5
Funny how something old as the hills becomes revolutionary these days . Pigs are indeed highly intelligent, that is why a pig tractor type thing probably isn't going to work. Electric is the way to go with pigs if you are going to be moving them. They are incredibly powerful, you wouldn't believe what they can lift with their snout. Our families get pigs every spring for 4H, then butcher about now. We just picked our meat up Saturday. I have apple trees that my father planted over 45 years ago, sadly they are in a spot where running pigs is not an option. Plus, our timing schedule means that the pigs are gone before the fallen apples are a problem. One pig isn't going to be too happy alone either, but you need to get multiples of roughly the same size, or the smaller one will be bullied. Now, a potbellied pig is another thing, since they are basically going to be a pet. Around here you can get them for nothing, it was one of those fads that everyone wanted them, then there was a glut and you couldn't give them away. Pigs will dig,so a young orchard may not be a good idea, but established trees and pigs moved frequently is ideal. If you are having to rake up the apples to take to the animals, you are working too hard. Which is the problem I have with the location of my apple trees. Think through the placement of your trees before you plant them if possible to plan for animals in the future. I want to cut down the trees I have now, too much mess, and the apples attract yellow jackets.
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Post by castanea on Aug 23, 2010 9:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by castanea on Aug 23, 2010 9:33:15 GMT -5
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Post by castanea on Aug 23, 2010 20:53:23 GMT -5
And if anyone has experience with these smaller pigs, I would like to hear about it.
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Post by flowerpower on Aug 25, 2010 6:41:30 GMT -5
Jo, I'm sure you could find a few PBPs for free on Craigslist. You will have to get 2 pigs. Pigs are herd animals. They get nervous by themselves. If you fence them in, you'll need to supplement them with mini pig chow. Or Sow chow at the very least.
If I could find a Kune Kune, I'd snatch it in a heartbeat. lol
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Post by castanea on Oct 9, 2010 13:53:17 GMT -5
Jo, I'm sure you could find a few PBPs for free on Craigslist. You will have to get 2 pigs. Pigs are herd animals. They get nervous by themselves. If you fence them in, you'll need to supplement them with mini pig chow. Or Sow chow at the very least. If I could find a Kune Kune, I'd snatch it in a heartbeat. lol There are lots of them free or very cheap on Craigslist
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