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Post by templeton on Sept 13, 2013 4:03:09 GMT -5
Ahhh you guys, posting all that corn porn - No , I've already decided I don't have enough room, I don't I don't....T
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Post by hortusbrambonii on Sept 13, 2013 5:26:28 GMT -5
Looks always really really cool, Alan's Astronomy domine project...
I really love the genetic diversity.
Maybe I should join in too. I think it might be more adaptable to our climate than the famous 'glass gem', which is taking too long to develop...
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 15, 2013 9:45:29 GMT -5
I'd guess at Glass Gem as a 120 to 130 days to maturity corn. Astronomy Domine, depending on strain is more like a 75 to 85 day corn.
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Post by freeholder on Jan 18, 2014 14:08:43 GMT -5
Joseph, is that 75-85 days to eating, or to dry seed? I'm in a climate similar to yours (4,500' elevation in Eastern Oregon), and we have a very short growing season. In fact, one on-line garden planning site informed me that we have NO growing season, LOL! We don't eat much sweet corn, so I'm more interested in Painted Mountain and its derivatives (mostly for feed for the chickens and goats), but your project is interesting.
Kathleen
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 18, 2014 17:06:40 GMT -5
Kathleen: Welcome to the forum. The 75-85 days is totally bogus... It's provided to approximate how it grows compared to what the seed companies list. In my garden I plant Astronomy Domine on May 5th (3 weeks before the average last frost) and start harvesting it for fresh eating on August 25th. So that's 112 calendar days. Add 20 to 30 days to get it to the dry stage and I'm harvesting seeds in September after our fall frosts have started. I grow another sweet corn which I call LISP Ashworth which I plant the same time and harvest on July 24th. So that takes 80 calendar days when planted in cold spring weather. The seed companies would call it a 60 day sweet corn. [LISP=Long Island Seed Project] A few years ago I made a cross between Painted Mountain and a sugary enhanced sweet corn. I've selected the sweet kernels from the cross, but didn't do anything with it since a new tenant chopped the seed crop down and fed it to his goats. It is as early as LISP Ashworth. I have a tiny bit of seed to share if you'd like to try. If you haven't already, check out my swap list. I might have a few varieties that would work well for you. |
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Post by freeholder on Jan 18, 2014 22:32:17 GMT -5
Thank you, Joseph, that clarifies the days to maturity for me. I have looked at your seed list -- been trying to figure out where to buy silver dimes to send for seed packets, LOL! (I think there's a store in Klamath Falls that might have them, I've just never bought any before.) Besides the short growing season, this year I think we are going to have extreme water issues. Last year they wouldn't let most of the farmers and ranchers in the Klamath Basin use any irrigation water; the way things are going, I don't know what they are going to shut off this year!
Kathleen
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Post by hortusbrambonii on Jan 19, 2014 9:59:29 GMT -5
Now that I read this I wonder: Is there any difference in cold-hardiness between corn varieties? (I suppose there is)
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 19, 2014 15:54:58 GMT -5
Now that I read this I wonder: Is there any difference in cold-hardiness between corn varieties? (I suppose there is) Some years ago I planted many thousands of corn seeds in extremely cold weather. I transplanted the earliest to emerge into another bed and plowed under the slower growing plants. Each year I plant the offspring in extremely cold weather, and chop out any plants that are damaged by frost. Save the seeds and repeat. This strain has a lot of cold hardiness. (It still can't overwinter.) The ancestors of this corn were heavily influenced by Hopi Pink, so it's a long season corn and I don't get an earlier harvest because it goes into the ground earlier. Hmmm. Cross this with LISP Ashworth and reselect for cold hardiness and short season and that might be a winner for me. |
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Post by cortona on Jan 20, 2014 12:37:41 GMT -5
Joseph you have tryed some of my flour corn, do you think that my landrace drought adapted flour corn can be of some use for freeholder? if yes i can provide seeds for he!
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on May 8, 2014 14:57:30 GMT -5
I planted Astronomy Domine sweet corn on May 5th. I have limited space this year so I only planted about 400 seeds. I suppose that most of them will be saved for seed rather than going to the farmer's market. I planted one row each of last year's patches (like colored kernels together) and a couple of rows of bulk mixed seed. Inside the patch I planted seeds intending to be detasseled to make F1 hybrids. These included: Cateto, each distinct type of the South American synthetic composite, and Oaxacan pyramid corn. I don't expect the Oaxacan corn to set seed this year either, but if I don't try...
I also planted other hybrid corns which may eventually be incorporated into Astronomy Domine: F1 hybrid made last year between [Ashworth X Cateto]. F1 hybrid made last year [Ashworth X South American flour/flint corns]. Sweet kernels from the F2 hybrid between [Ashworth X Joseph's popcorn]. Kernels that may be ([Ashworth X Joseph's Popcorn] X [South American Synthetic Composite]). I planted all these crosses into the same patch. They can segregate as they will, and I'll pull what I want out of the mess.
Ha! In case you can't tell, I am enamored with the deep orange color of the Cateto corn!
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Post by ilex on Jun 3, 2014 14:15:26 GMT -5
Mine is tasseling, kind of short this year (2-3 feet).
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Post by ilex on Jun 9, 2014 17:03:55 GMT -5
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jun 9, 2014 19:54:02 GMT -5
ilex: Great corn patch... Looks a bit dehydrated, but growing well. My first crop of AD is about 6" tall right now. I haven't even planted my second crop.
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Post by cortona on Jun 10, 2014 13:33:44 GMT -5
ilex wath a wonderful corn patch! love it!
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Post by ilex on Jun 12, 2014 11:13:19 GMT -5
Thin soil and warm weather.
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