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Post by extremegardener on Feb 23, 2011 17:20:29 GMT -5
Anybody know/have this one? Lark's Tongue/Langue d'alouette/Lerchenzung/Tall German It's supposed to be overwintering in Germany, so I'd like to find some seed to subject it to the extreme gardener torture test. I found this Swiss seed company that lists it, but my attempts at contacting them (e-mail) have met with no response... zollinger-samen.ch/fr/catalog/1/products/1120-LerchenzungeAlso, ever hear of Mosbacher kale, described by WW Weaver as "tender but visually spectacular"? Not sure whether tender refers to hardiness or palatability... |
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Post by garnetmoth on Feb 23, 2011 20:09:41 GMT -5
Neat looking. Id hope a larks tongue didnt look like that. Actually kinda like dreadlocks to me. Good luck finding it, its stunning!
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Post by steev on Feb 23, 2011 20:15:35 GMT -5
Looks like Lacinato kale.
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Post by extremegardener on Feb 23, 2011 20:39:49 GMT -5
Looks like Lacinato kale. Yes I was thinking that, too, but it looks like the blades of the leaves are more narrow than Lacinato. It's supposed to be a B. oleracea, but very hardy |
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Post by ottawagardener on Feb 26, 2011 11:56:48 GMT -5
Neat, kind of looks like a Lancinato crossed with somelike scotch curled. It would be great to get some super hardy B. oleracea genetics.
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Post by extremegardener on Feb 26, 2011 13:50:01 GMT -5
It would be great to get some super hardy B. oleracea genetics. Yup, that's my goal. It seems to me there must be some somewhere. I'm trialing some of mybighair's oleraceas - very curious to see in 6 weeks or so if they survived winter in situ. Same with some promising couve tronchuda. |
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Post by ottawagardener on Feb 26, 2011 18:47:04 GMT -5
Looking forward to reading about your promsing couve tronchuda. I've been waiting for this land to be up and running. Lots of seeds started...
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Post by toad on Mar 11, 2011 15:21:16 GMT -5
I know this, as it used to be a commonly grown kale here. As far as I remember, it originated in a cross between lacinato type and curly kale. It was famous for the good taste.
I just checked my 1954 seedcatalogue (Ohlsens Enke). It was then called 'Hamburger Torve' (Hamburg Market), but noted, that it is also known as Lærketunge (Lark's Tongue). It was not a novelty back then. It takes winters well around here.
As B. oleracea is outbreeding, I think hardyness can easily be lost in a cultivar, but might also be regained with patience and a high number of individuals in the breeding.
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Post by toad on Mar 11, 2011 15:29:53 GMT -5
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Post by extremegardener on Mar 11, 2011 17:20:20 GMT -5
Great info Toad!
I found a seed source through Seed Savers Exchange, so I will be trialing it starting this year. I hope to have enough plants to try overwintering some in the garden, and some in a sort of winter storage pit...
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Post by oxbowfarm on Sept 27, 2011 5:07:01 GMT -5
So how grows the Lark's Tongue?
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